I’ve been obsessively making checklists on everything we need to do, buy and take with us on our upcoming trip to Los Angeles to visit my parents, and then the Philippines to visit Mr. Bee’s parents. It takes 3 flights and 2 days of travel to get to the remote island where Mr. Bee’s parents live. This will be my third time flying out there, and the travel was difficult even without kids, so many people have called us brave for taking this trip with a 10 month old and 2 1/2 year old. I know it’ll be tough, but my mom will be coming with us, so she’ll be a big help. Mr. Bee’s parents also haven’t met Olive yet, so that alone will make the trip worth it.
Mr. Bee’s parents own a couple of beachfront cottages that they rent out to tourists year round. They have tons of pet chickens and roosters, and grow their own fruits and vegetables. We think Charlie is going to have the time of his life, and he’s at an age where he may remember the trip. It’s a gorgeous little island with crystal blue waters that caters to tourists, but most of its residents are also very poor. I know Charlie and Olive are too young to understand just yet, but I want to travel to many places with poverty so they can appreciate how much they have, how lucky they are, and how they should give back.
View from Mr. Bee’s parents’ place.
We’re flying out to Los Angeles and spending a couple of days with my family first, because the flight from Los Angeles to Tokyo is much shorter than the flight from New York to Tokyo. There are no direct flights to Manila so we have to take a connecting flight in Seoul or Tokyo.
OUR 2 1/2 WEEK ITINERARY
Flight #1: 6:00pm flight from New York to Los Angeles (6 hours)
Flight #2: 1:30pm flight from Los Angeles to Tokyo (12 hours)
Flight #3: connecting flight from Tokyo to Manila (5 hours)
Flight #4: next day morning flight to small island (1 hour)
Flight #5: morning flight back to Manila (1 hour)
Flight #6: next day 9:00am flight from Manila to Tokyo ( 4 1/2 hours)
Flight #7: connecting flight from Tokyo to Los Angeles (10 hours)
Flight #8: next day 11:30am flight from Los Angeles to New York (5 1/2 hours)
The first flight from New York to Los Angeles won’t be that bad because the flight is around their bedtime, so I think they’ll both sleep most of the way. But we have 5 other long flights (12, 5, 4.5, 10, 5.5 hours respectively) during which we have to entertain both Charlie and Olive. I bought a bunch of new toys for the trip, but that also means saving some of the toys for the return flights, and schlepping everything with us. I don’t think Charlie will be that difficult with all the toys/apps/movies we’ll have for him. But Olive is at a tough age where she’s not into tv, toys don’t hold her interest for very long, and she’s going to want to move around. I’ll just be nursing a lot, feeding her lots of snacks, and walking up and down the aisles a lot!
Ceviche, calamari and lobster caught and cooked the same day. It doesn’t get any fresher!
Other than the grueling travel, some other difficult logistics we have to navigate include:
– Charlie is recently potty trained, but we will have him in diapers when we’re on the planes/traveling
– Olive is a lap infant on all our flights
– no strollers as Mr Bee’s parents live on the beach — a 20 minute walk from town with no roads; Charlie is going to have to walk a lot while we’re there, and when switching planes (we’ll probably end up carrying him a lot)
– no car seats as we wouldn’t even be able to use them in the Philippines anyway
– no crib so we’re bringing our own
– electricity for only half the day
– no bathtubs or hot water (we bathe by mixing cold water with boiled water in a large bucket)
– no hemp milk… so hopefully Charlie will drink soy because we’re not carrying milk with us (if we can even find soy that is)
– lots of mosquitoes
– only one room has ac (that’s the one I’ll be staying in!) and it is hot and humid
– it’s a rural, remote island, so we can’t buy anything there and we’re going to have to bring everything we need with us
We definitely have our work cut out for us!
Fresh fruit all over Mr Bee’s parents’ property
OUR LUGGAGE
We had to purchase new suitcases for the trip because we lent ours to someone who moved and didn’t return them(!). We will be taking three pieces of luggage with us:
– This duffle suitcase which will be checked. It has backpack straps in case we can’t use the wheels, like on the beach. It also folds up very small when empty, which is always a big plus.
– This carry-on wheeled suitcase with a detachable backpack.The detachable backpack is so cool! We’re going to put all our electronics in it, and it’ll be a great diaper bag during our trip. Since we can attach it to the suitcase, it’s one less thing to carry. The carry-on suitcase will hold all of Charlie and Olive’s toys and books, and also has backpack straps like the duffle suitcase.
– Our Diaper Dude Messenger II Diaper Bag for diapers, snacks, etc. It has a lot of pockets and holds a lot of stuff.
I’ll be wearing Olive and dragging one suitcase, and Mr. Bee will be wearing the messenger bag and dragging one suitcase. Hopefully Charlie can walk!
I walked out at least half a mile in low tide. That’s Mr. Bee’s parents’ place in the distance. During low tide, locals catch octopus among the rocks.
PACKING CHECKLIST
I’m going to create detailed printable checklists along with links and visual guides to all the products I used/recommend when we return, so this is just a general list of what I’m packing for now. I’ve done a lot of research, and learned lots of great tips from the Hellobee community as well!
Large Suitcase
GO travel crib/sheet
inflatable tub
fabric high chair
clothes/underwear for whole family
swimming suits for the whole family
Charlie/Olive sun hats
Olive sleep sack (2)
sunglasses
sunblock
bug repellent
body wash/shampoo
body lotion
face lotion
razor
deodorant
nail clippers
diapers & wipes
nursing pads
Carry-On Suitcase (Toys and Books)
Charlie books: Goodnight, Goodnight Construction Site, Harold and the Purple Crayon, White Rabbit’s Color Book, I Love My White Shoes, Prince of the Potty, Airport
My Plane Trip coloring book, twistable crayons
Wonder Color Markers and Drawing Pad
Create-a-Scene Magnetic Playset: Construction Site
Wikki Stix / pipe cleaners
Thomas Train & fire truck
Painter’s Tape (to create roads/cities)
Thomas’ Sticker Express
Thomas Water Wow Activity Book
Playdoh (red, blue, yellow) & garlic press (to make noodles)
Pocket Etch-a-sketch
playing cards (dazzle Charlie with shuffling, and Mr Bee and I can play cards too)
Olive’s book: Indestructible’s: Jungle, Rumble!
toy leash (so toys don’t land on the dirty floor)
Baby Einstein Takealong Tunes
Fisher Price Click n’ Learn Remote
B. Hellophone
Playsilk
Random small toys: silicon cupcake cup, straws
Charlie/Olive change of clothes (3)
Charlie/Olive sweaters
Carry-on Backpack
dslr/recharger/usb cable
ipad/recharger
iphones/recharger/usb cable
laptop
Charlie headphones & headphone splitter
earbuds x 2
family passports
itinerary
notebook + pen
Charlie/Olive birth certificates copies
family toothbrushes/toothpaste/kids’ toothpaste
lip balm
Carry-on Diaper Bag
baby carrier
changing pad
overnight diapers size 3, 4
Aquaphor
hand wipes
wipes
2 aden & anais blankets
extra shirt for me
ibuprofen & acetaminophen
Benadryl (in case of an allergic reaction)
Charlie/Olive lovey
travel Boppy (Olive is going to sleep on this on my lap)
Ziploc bags
disposable place mats (to use on airplane tray tables)
waterproof bib
Charlie hemp milk
Packit Freezable lunch bag for milk
Charlie bottles
Olive water bottle cap adapter
utensils
dish soap (to wash bottles at airport during flight connections)
Charlie/Olive snacks & food: Cheerios, yogurt melts, mum mums, lollipops & gummi bears (for take-off and landing), fruit leather, nutri-grain bars, food pouches, nonrefrigerated foods like muffins/bananas
Since the travel crib takes up half our check-in suitcase, we have to pack very light. Mr. Bee and I are only taking 2 outfits in addition to what we’ll be wearing, and pretty much nothing else other than our technology. We’ll use the kids’ toiletries, and we can just wash our clothes while we’re there. Since we can’t buy necessities like wipes and diapers there, pretty much everything we’re bringing is for the kids. I packed more toys than clothes because we have 6 flights that are between 5.5 – 12 hours!
I’m not gonna lie — I’m worried that it’s going to be really tough. But whatever happens, I’m sure this will be a trip we never forget!
Based on our itinerary and packing list, do you have any last minute packing gear/tips or travel advice for us?
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hostess / wonderful honeydew / 32460 posts
How much does Charlie weigh? Do you think taking an ergo might be worth it since he’s gonna have to walk so much? Mrbee can wear him on his back..
I’m anxious for you guys, but im sure you’ll have a great time!!
grape / 78 posts
It will be a lot of work to prepare, but it will be so worth it! What an amazing trip you are going on…I’m a little biased though because my mom is from the Philippines, and that is where we went on our honeymoon!
grapefruit / 4923 posts
definitely sounds like a lot of work, but i’m sure it will be so worth it in the end!
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I hear ya, my family live in a landlocked and remote town of Sumatra island in Indonesia. Our itinerary is the same though of we are unlucky to catch a flight to that town, it will be a 12- h bus ride. I am saving it for when my baby is into iPad. I am scared if my baby becomes sick when we are there. Is your pediatrician giving olive and Charlie special vaccine for the trip? Have fun and it will be very memorable
GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts
I’m anxious but also excited for the family trip you have ahead! Good luck!!
GOLD / pomelo / 5167 posts
Oh my… this list is overwhelming for me but you seem pretty much on the ball of what to bring. I’m wishing you an easy and safe trip. Hope the kids have fun!
blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts
Those pictures make me want to volunteer to go and be your luggage bearer. Wow! I know it will be exhaustig during the travel days, but I’m sure it will be so fantastic and memorable!
bananas / 9227 posts
Is it possible to hire someone to travel to another town to buy diapers and essentials? A trusted local perhaps? It’s not uncommon to hire someone to do your errands in the Philippines and the price should be very reasonable. The key is to find someone that’s dependable and someone your parents know. People will be more than happy to do it – you’d be surprised!
Another option is to seek the help of native friend and borrow their help. A local should be able to help you acquire all the essentials you’d need for your trip and back.
One other option would be to send a “Balikbayan Box” with essentials. It’s essentially a service that Filipinos abroad use to send large, heavy boxes to various parts of the Philippines. Even if they don’t service your in-law’s island, they should be able to deliver to a nearby location — making it easier for someone to pick it up for you. I’m not sure if any places deliver in such short notice though, but it’s worth checking it out.
bananas / 9227 posts
It might even be possible to go to one of the large malls in Manila and ask if they deliver. You’d have to make some calls or ask a local to do it before your departure, but it can free up at least some of your storage space.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
Good luck!
grape / 75 posts
I cannot wait to hear how the trip went! Good luck!!!
GOLD / wonderful pomegranate / 28905 posts
I know it seems like SO much work now but I think this will be such an amazing experience for Charlie & Olive. Charlie will probably remember more of it than Olive will. But hopefully more trips like these in the future. The view from Mr. Bee’s family home is AH-MAZING.
I’m hoping to bring M back to China on a family trip before she’s 5 so this post is super duper helpful. I’m from a small village that’s a hr car ride from the nearest airport. The airport was only built in recent years!
Are you guys flying out of JFK or Newark? If Newark and Continental I *might* be able to hook up you!
@Mrs. Blue: hahah seriously! Do you guys want a travel nanny?? I’ll sleep on the beach.
grapefruit / 4800 posts
I think you’re brave too! We took not as complicated of a trip and only with one kid and there were definitely moments of ‘why on earth are we doing this’ but then those moments are over and there’s an amazing experience. I thought I took a lot of pictures but I didn’t take enough.
I agree with Chopsuey, do you have a back carrier for Charlie, I know some of the wraps carry kids up to a pretty high weight.
Best wishes! Just grit your teeth through the rough parts and have so much fun the rest of the time!
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Good friends of ours suggested buying a bunch of $1 toys from Target and wrapping them for the airplane. So everytime our 2 year old got ansy on the plane, we’d let him unwrap another present and plat with it. Stickers were a huge hit!
We’ve done the San Jose, CA to Bali and then Bali to a remote island trip when he was 7 months old. It’s such a loooong trip!
Good luck!
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
@chopsuey119: i was seriously considering bringing another carrier (we have 2) or buying a backpack for carrying an older toddler. my mom will be with us though, so she will be able to help out, but it’ll probably still be tough!
@hokidoki – no special vaccines! the only thing i’m a little scared of is mosquitoes!
@Crumbs: it’s a small island so there is no other town. we may be able to replenish some of our supplies when we’re in manila, but we won’t have much time in manila either since we land at night and take off the next morning to the island mr bee’s parents live on. i’m hoping to find soy milk in manila so we can bring it with us to the island!
@regberadaisy: we are flying jetblue out of jfk like always. my parents live closer to long beach than lax. one time we flew into lax and it was not worth it! tickets were cheaper but it took so much longer. we’re flying out of la to tokyo…
@michelle k – i know the small toys thing is popular, but i decided to get things that i know charlie will play with a long time instead. a small toy would pass maybe a couple minutes of time, whereas i know an arts and crafts project/drawing can keep charlie occupied for over an hour. only you know your child best though!
apricot / 301 posts
You guys are troopers! I guess no room for souvenirs? Have a wonderful trip!
pomelo / 5178 posts
Thos pictures are gorgeous; I can’t wait to hear all about your trip when you get back!
bananas / 9628 posts
what an awesome adventure for your kids! looks like you guys have things planned out really well. i have the luggage you bought, it’s awesome! can’t wait to see pictures of your trip =)
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When we took a road trip to Yellowstone with the kid at 11 months and Hawaii at 15 months, we used this carrier. We didn’t bring a stroller at all. The husband was able to wear the kid and pull our luggage and carry our car seat during our Hawaii trip. I also like how it folds and fits into the overhead bin in the airplane.
http://www.rei.com/product/810852/deuter-kid-comfort-ii-child-carrier
blogger / coconut / 8306 posts
It sounds like you’ve both really put thought and research into this trip, and have thought of every possible scenario.
I don’t have any advice, but just want to commiserate that I know how long that flight is! We flew Pittsburgh to Detroit, Detroit to Tokyo, then Tokyo to Bangkok two years ago. There were SO many kids on the flight, and I couldn’t believe how well behaved they all were. I was anxious and getting restless, but I was surrounded by babies and toddlers who didn’t seem to mind the long trip at all.
Lots of parents had iPads and portable DVD players with them. Is that a possibility for you? We didn’t have an outlet near our seats, but tons of people further up did.
blogger / nectarine / 2687 posts
who-wheee! i’m exhausted just reading this! but gosh, mr. bee’s parents’ place sounds amazing…i hope you guys have an amazing time! charlie is going to be in heaven!!!
nectarine / 2964 posts
OMG. I am laughing nervously as I read your will-be adventure! You guys are troopers! And I thought what we did (going to Sydney with a 5 month old) was crazy.
To be honest I’d rather take a flight from NYC to seoul (or manilla, if they have that option?) if I were you…. it takes out a lot of unknown variables because flights get delayed. When we came back from Sydney –> LA –> Atlanta our flight got delayed for 4 hours because of weather – my husband was constantly on the phone changing the flight from LA to Atlanta. If it gets delayed one more hour we’d have to book a hotel and stay overnight in LA. It would have been hairy with a 5-month and I wouldn’t have enough diapers!
Besides, one long stretch of flight really wasn’t that bad with a baby! It’s like ripping a band-aid in 1 go. I don’t know about with a toddler though.
What I want to know is what are you going to do with Olive’s food? We maybe going to Hong Kong when LO is 9 months, and I have no idea what to expect with a baby eating both solids and milk at that age, on a plane.
pineapple / 12053 posts
you sound like you have a great list of stuff and i think the most important thing on a trip like this is a great attitude. i read a great blog by some local photogs about why they travel with their kids and it’s a philosophy that my husband and i love as well and hope to implement with our kids!
http://garyandcourtney.com/blog/2012/01/why-we-travel/
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
@lovebird: pictures will be our souvenirs!
@Mrs. Jump Rope: yup we’re taking our ipad and it has lots of movies and games loaded. it’s not charlie i’m worried about so much as olive!
@irene: we’re going to la so we can visit my family (my brother has never met olive), and so my mom can fly with us. we were going to fly direct from tokyo – ny on our flight back, but everything was sold out since we bought our tickets last minute, and we’re flying labor day weekend. that’s when everyone in asia flies back home because it’s the end of summer vacation!
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
Those photos are amazing!
pomegranate / 3053 posts
Did I ever tell you about the Kidco Peapod Plus? I can’t remember. It’s a sleep tent that has meshy sides (good for mosquitos) and won’t take up much room in your suitcase. There’s two sizes – PeaPod and PeaPod Plus which is larger. Maybe you can get one for each child? Once you take out the sleeping bag that’s included it’ll fold much flatter. I never use the sleeping bag. Too hot for summers or warmer weather.
Your upcoming trip sounds amazing and you are definitely prepared! I can’t believe no power for half the day. But how nice would it be to be electronic free for once.
nectarine / 2964 posts
@Mrs. Bee: And by the way, will it be possible for you guys to send things to your in-laws’ home prior to arrival? This way you can send a big package of diapers, wipes, nursing pads…etc. there first and didn’t need to carry them with you? I don’t know how long are you guys going to stay, but when we were abroad for 2 weeks we used up 3/4 of a gigantic box of diapers (99 count).
Another thing is, are you planning to bring your pump with you?
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
@irene: yup i already shipped diapers, milk, car seats, etc to my parents’ place.
i will probably only take overnight diapers and have to buy some in the philippines. otherwise diapers will take up half the suitcase!
apple seed / 4 posts
it will be an amazing trip once you’re there! how exciting. My kids and I travel a lot and that little age is the most challenging, You’ve got great stuff planned. For us, the hardest part is being so confined…i always let my kids run around the plane a bit. Sorry snooty flight attendant. You just need a lot of patience.
Play-dough is our favorite airplane toy.
have fun!
blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts
this place looks magical!! looks like you have thought through everything and are more than prepared! charlie is going to have such a blast!
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
@irene: oh oops i misread your comment. we don’t have time to ship anything to my in-law’s at this point. it takes weeks for something to arrive, and the timeframe not really dependable anyway since they love on a remote island.
@erwoo: i am scared to use the peapod after several reports of babies dying of suffocation, including someone on my local listserv!
pomegranate / 3053 posts
@Mrs. Bee: Omg, I had no idea until you mentioned it. I just looked it up and there has been reports of suffocation. Sounds like Kidco will be recalling the product soon enough. Thank goodness I didn’t use it with Nicholas when he was younger.
grapefruit / 4049 posts
I am exhausted just reading this! I’d never be as prepared! Have fun!
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We went on a month-long trip to the Philippines with our then 20-months old baby last March. Ergo was my best friend. There’s so much people in the airport and everywhere else that in order for me not to lose sight of my baby I had to carry him all the time. We had our parents with us but my son would not go with anybody except me. Carry a bug balm with you all the time, especially now that it’s been raining and there’s been a lot of typhoon. Bring enough diapers as you can, reserve your overnight diapers for traveling, the diapers in the Philippines even the most expensive ones leak so much. Some of the bottled waters in the Philippines are unsafe, we bought an H2go Portable Water Ionizing Pitcher, and we tested some of the water (there were lots of impurities). So we bought Evian and Fiji water for my son from the 7-11 store.
For the long airplane trip, some airlines give out kiddy-bags with crayons and stickers with it, check with your airlines if they do. Call the airlines in advance to reserve a kid’s meal for Charlie.
Otherwise, enjoy the trip, it will be fun, my son’s grandfather had a farm as well and he enjoyed seeing the chicken run around.
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
@nella – thanks for the tips! we’re going to be on an island, so no 7-11 there! and i am a little worried with all the rain they’ve been having. lot of people have died.
pea / 8 posts
My daughter Olivia is about to turn one and has been to the Philippines (island of Cebu) twice already. We found that using insect repellent wipes (natrapel or low dose cutter) worked well at keeping mosquitoes away when we couldn’t be in an air-conditioned space. I just had to time our outdoor time so that the repellent would last long enough. We also used the gocrib (with mosquito net) and it worked well and was easy to take down and put up since we moved around quite a bit. We found diapers at a store in the city and brought them with us to the small town where my family is from. She wouldn’t sleep much in the bassinet on the plane, but the extra space in bulkhead was terrific. Good luck!
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
@ctantoco: thanks for the tips on the wipes! we typically use natrapel spray, so good to know there are wipes too which would be easier to use! i’m going to order some today.
did you buy the mosquito net that is made for the gocrib? i didn’t order one and am wondering if i should….
pea / 8 posts
My mom got us the Gocrib and the mosquito net. We honestly didn’t need the net much because she slept in an air-conditioned room without mosquitoes, but it would’ve been handy if that hadn’t been an option. It fits well with the crib – wish you lived nearby because I’d happily loan it to you
pea / 19 posts
i am all for lists… and love how detailed your list is for packing.. i did the same for just a week vacation to a beach house and it seems overwhelming to look at but honestly keeps everything so organized. one thing that im huge on is medicine for the kids especially if they get sick. or hurt… dont forget anti diaharrea medicine, alchohol swabs, neosporin and bandaids
best of luck on your trip…
pea / 6 posts
You are seriously brave. I’ve already told my family and husband we don’t plan on flying anywhere for a few years, depending on the temperament of our child.
Just a note, the advice I received from parents who fly a lot is that while it seems like a good idea to fly at a child’s bed time, generally, it does not work out so nicely and that’s usually when the cranky temper tantrums start, cause they either can’t get comfortable or are tired but over-stimulated in a way that makes them crankier than if they were over-stimulated while not tired. Most parents who I’ve talked to about potential/future kid travel said that flights before 2PM tend to work out better for them, but it really depends on the kid in the end.
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Why not ship some items there in advance? That way you can use them while there and then have them shipped back-or if you ship over diapers/wipes, you can use them and then not have anything to hsip back!
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
@ctantoco: ok i think i won’t buy the net since we’ll be in an air conditioned room, and they have mosquito nets there if we really need them. thanks!
@spunbutterfly: all of our flights are before 2pm except the one out to la. we actually flew twice at bedtime before, and it worked out great. it really depends on the child. some do better with an early morning flight when they’re at their best mood, others do better to sleep through most of the flight!
@laura – it was a last minute trip and there is not enough time to ship anything there. it’s a remote island so the things wouldn’t get there in time anyway!
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Wow, sounds like you have a big adventure ahead of yourself! Hopefully once you make I there, you can breathe a sigh of relief and enjoy yourself!
Sounds a lot like my husbands experience when living in the Philippines. He lived on several remote islands with no electricity or hot water. He also bath out of a bucket! He said it was kind of like camping for two years! ;). Have so much fun!
pea / 7 posts
Oh my! I am both overwhelmed and excited for your family as i read this post! And oh wow I didn’t realize Mr. Bee is Filipino! Bith my mister and I are, but we live in Canada, and are planning to take our little one when he is around Charlie’s age. Thankfully, my husband’s parents, where we will be staying is not as remote as your in laws’ so we have to bring everything! I am looking forward to your stories when you get back from the trip! I hope things go smoothly! Have tons of fun!
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
@vserapio: I’m half Japanese… my parents just happened to have moved to the Philippines when I was in college! My dad is a civil/structural engineer and worked on a lot of bridge/road/port infrastructure projects in the Philippines…