Being a first-time parent is like being a detective in a mystery novel. When a problem arises, you have to sort through a million seemingly minute and unconnected details. Usually in hindsight the solution seems obvious, but when you are going through things for the first time, nothing seems to make sense.
From his birth, I was worried about how quickly Scribble nursed. I was horrified when the lactation consultant told me to expect to nurse for 25-40 minutes per feeding. He never took both breasts at a single feed and would hardly eat for more than ten minutes before popping off the breast, seemingly satisfied. Every time I nursed him I would stare at the clock, anxiously willing minutes to go by. Every time he made a sound I offered the breast. I woke him to feed and obsessively tallied his wet and soiled diapers.
So imagine my surprise when he exceeded his birth weight at two weeks!
Despite his stellar weight gain, our nursing sessions were stressful. After a few minutes of eating he would pop off the breast and shriek. Our feeds were a terrible cycle of nursing, screaming, spitting up, burping, then trying to nurse again. I never knew when he was full, because so often our nursing sessions ended in tears. Even after the initial engorgement period, I leaked all the time and my breasts were never soft between feedings. Baby’s latch seemed to get shallower every day. And the most disconcerting issue: his stool was dark green and smelly.
Still, he was gaining like a madman! By his two month appointment he had almost doubled his birth weight.
For a while I blamed C.O.’s green stool on antibiotics I was taking to treat a nasty bladder infection. I also suspected he had GERD. But some late-night research indicated that I had a case of oversupply. My body was making too much milk for baby to eat; as a result his nutrition was compromised.
Mother’s milk contains less fat at the beginning of a nursing session and more fat toward the end. The thin, watery milk she produces at first is called foremilk. It contains more lactose than the fatty hindmilk that comes in later. When a mother has an oversupply problem, her baby fills up on foremilk instead of hindmilk. The increased lactose in the milk makes baby gassy and changes the color of his stool, and the reduced fat content keeps baby from feeling satisfied.
Due to my oversupply my letdown was extremely forceful. Scribble was swallowing quickly to keep pace. This forced him to gulp in air, which increased his gassiness. He developed a shallow latch in order to handle my flow.
Research offered two suggestions: pump off the excess or block feed. I wanted to solve the problem quickly, and pumping seemed like the fastest solution. Unfortunately, since nursing operates on supply and demand, pumping increased my oversupply in the long term, even as it gave us short-term relief. Pumping might have worked better f I expressed a set amount every day at the same time with no exceptions. But I didn’t want to rely on pumping to relieve my engorgement; I needed a way to regulate my supply instead.
I had better luck with block feeding. To block feed means to nurse from the same breast until that side is empty. The engorgement you experience in the unoffered breast will train your body to produce less milk, while feeding on one side will ensure that baby eventually gets the hindmilk he needs. Most literature suggests feeding from one breast for as long as 4 or 5 hours, but I found I needed to feed on one side for 12 to 24 hours to achieve results. My breast never felt “empty,” but after long stretches of block feeding I began producing richer milk.
The unoffered breast was heavy and knotted. Fearing the pump, I started hand-expressing milk to relieve the pain and to keep from developing an infection. At first I expressed into a towel, but eventually I started saving the milk in a bottle. I only hand-expressed to relieve the immediate tightness; any more and I risked engorgement.
Block feeding was rough. At times Scribs refused to nurse, even though I knew he was hungry. I was squirting him in the face every time he ate; sometimes the milk would stream out and onto the floor before I even had the chance to bring him to the breast. I let my initial milk spray into a burp cloth or bottle, but as soon as he latched he would choke and howl. It broke my heart. Although I did not supplement, I often wondered if offering formula would be a more humane choice.
In the meantime I learned some valuable coping mechanisms. I fed baby in his sleep when he was calmer. (Here are some more suggestions for how to calm your baby before nursing.
I also found that pinching the areola tightly at the base of the nipple helped to slow my flow. Many articles suggested positioning baby above my breast, forcing the milk to flow against gravity. That didn’t work for us, but I am sure it would for others.
Oversupply is not a problem that goes away quickly; it must be managed long-term. Scribble is still gassy, although he usually passes yellow stools. In order to avoid engorgement I have to nurse as often as possible. And when he drops feedings my oversupply threatens to return. I have only started pumping in the past week or so and I only pump once a day so that I don’t start the cycle of oversupply all over again.
In spite of these issues, I think the worst is behind us. If you are battling some of these symptoms, perhaps my story may help you to put the pieces together and start focusing on solutions!
What has been your biggest nursing challenge?
Breastfeeding Problems part 11 of 13
1. Pumping Supplies by Guides2. Mastitis Misery by mrs. wagon
3. Elimination Diet Adventures by Mrs. Superhero
4. Tips & Tricks When Baby Refuses the Bottle by Checklists
5. Breastfeeding Woes by breastfeeding
6. Clogged Milk Ducts (and How to Treat Them) by Mrs. Bee
7. Probiotics for Preventing Thrush by Mrs. Bee
8. Mastitis by Mrs. Bee
9. The Shield Between Us by Mrs. Hopscotch
10. Too Much of a Good thing (or dealing with an oversupply) by Mrs. Superhero
11. Battling Oversupply by Mrs. Sketchbook
12. Unsolicited Breastfeeding Advice for New Moms Part II by breastfeeding
13. Mastitis by Mrs. Chocolate
pomegranate / 3414 posts
My milk took 2 weeks to come in, I had oversupply and fast let-down, DS had a shallow latch and was tongue/lip tied both of which caused nipple pain. DS had his lip/tongue released at 4w and we’ve now gotten the nipple pain under control for the most part; his shallow latch comes and goes. I managed to get the oversupply under control-returning to work and pumping 3x a day seemed to help it regulate.
pomegranate / 3388 posts
Thanks for some perspective from the other side. I had zero supply and was a mess over my failure to provide food for my baby. This helps me to see that even those who have plenty of milk don’t always have a rosy relationship with nursing either…
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I struggled with oversupply as well. The hardest thing for me was that my doctors (ob/gyn and pediatrician) seemed very unfamiliar with the issue, and gave me very conflicting (and downright wrong) advice on how to deal with it. Sites like KellieMom.com were lifesavers for me, and block feedings were the best way I found to curb my supply. It’s definitely a blessing and a curse!
blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts
Yikes! The more I know about BFing, the more intimidating it is. I’m really hoping to be able to build up enough for two, but I hadn’t even thought of having issues with too much! Thanks for sharing!
blogger / nectarine / 2010 posts
My biggest challenge was inverted nipples, but we figured it out. I also got mastitis twice and that totally sucked.
I had an over supply, but pumped to manage it. I am so happy I chose that route because I have hundreds of ounces of milk in the freezer. That means that I can start weaning off the pump now (my over supply regulated around 10m) and still have a ton of milk to send to daycare.
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I also had an oversupply & fast flow that regulated once my girlie started daycare 3 months ago – I now pump 3x/day (2x @ work, 1x overnight). I’ve found my supply drops dramatically if she is bottle-fed for several days in a row with minimal nursing (like when she’s congested and the bottle is easier for her to handle). I’m impressed that mamas who exclusively pump are able to keep their supply up – I need to nurse at least 2x/day to maintain a normal supply nowadays! It’s interesting to have experienced both sides – I’ve had to work to keep the supply up, which is a stressful change after trying to figure out how to manage the oversupply.
I agree with the suggestion of block feeding – but I would also suggest using the pump flange to help you collect the letdown milk on the non-nursing side (I don’t hook the pump up, I just have a place for it to go). I’d be willing to bet you’d get an ounce or two each nursing session, and will get a little pressure relief on that side.
squash / 13764 posts
Thanks for this! I”m wondering if I also have an overactive letdown–my milk typically sprays out when LO unlatches during a feeding and I hear him gulping loudly while eating. However, his poops are normal–so I’m confused! We also struggle with a shallow latch, which I thought was due to his tongue tie. But maybe it also has to do with the letdown? Hmm…do you think block feeding would have a negative effect if I tried it, and I don’t actually have overactive letdown?
kiwi / 525 posts
Mrs Blue the only way to feed two – at the beginning anyway – is to recruit people to do absolutely everything else! Get a co sleeper cot thing and just stay there. They’ll both fit in it for a few months anyway, initially side by side and then top to tail. Get in the habit of a nice tight swaddle and they won’t belt each other in the face with stray arms!
Especially if you have a section, I found it awkward to get myself situated comfortably with both at the same time. I was determined to tandem feed and made things hard on myself that way but it is honestly easier if you manage to stagger feeds so you can do one at a time, at least until you get the hang of it.
grapefruit / 4669 posts
Yikes! I’m getting more and more concerned about BFing as birth gets closer, but I guess all I can do is try to learn as much as possible and know that there will be obstacles!
bananas / 9357 posts
I think I had a bit of over supply but I think it resoved itself. I also have a forceful letdown. In the beginning it was hard. I stressed like you because my baby never nursed longer than 10 minutes but he always had yellow stools and gained almost 4 lbs his first month. He would always pop off and I’d have to catch the milk in a towel. We were a milky mess for weeks! I also noticed he would pinch down on my nips to slow the flow. It’s gotten much better now. Only occasionally do I have to catch it in a towel and he only nurses 5 minutes on one side at a time.
I came across this article as another alternative to fixing an oversupply.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2075483/
nectarine / 2217 posts
I had the complete 100% opposite problem. It was defintely interesting to hear the difficulties of the other side, though!
Glad it is going better for you now!
blogger / watermelon / 14218 posts
I struggled with oversupply with Wagon Jr. I also suffered from D-MER, which is a feeling of depression with let down. For the first couple of months I cried at every single feeding. I wanted to give up all the time, but moms around me would tell me that I was lucky that I had any milk at all. I made small goals (make it two more weeks, make it to 3 months, make it to 4 months) and finally my supply regulated and nursing was not a big deal. That only lasted a month or two until I dried up by accident! (took decongestants!) Needless to say I did not try to re-establish my supply since we were weaning anyways, Wagon Jr. was 7 months and I had a giant frozen supply.
I was VIGILANT about getting my body to adjust to the supply/demand. I would ONLY pump if the baby was drinking a bottle. That meant many nights I’d go to bed completely engorged and leaking, and when Wagon Jr. would wake up for a night feeding I’d then get up and pump. I leaked through so many t shirts and sheets and I had to sleep on a towel.
Also Wagon Jr. was incredibly incredibly gassy. That was a whole other issue.
blogger / watermelon / 14218 posts
Also wanted to add: this time around I nursed for the first couple of months then went to exclusively pumping when I started working again. My supply is definitely more regulated this time around and I didn’t have crazy oversupply like the first time. Strangely enough, I got lots of plugged ducts the first time around and only a few this time around, but I did get mastitis this time (not last time)– my first day back at work! That was the sickest I have ever been in my life. I literally thought I was going to die.
pomegranate / 3604 posts
have you thought of using cabbage compresses?
cherry / 178 posts
Interesting to hear about the oversupply relating to the color of baby’s stools.. I also have an oversupply – well, I used to… I thought it has been regulated but maybe not? My baby has been having loose green stools for almost a month now, I thought it was diarrhea! But now I’m wondering if this is the issue all along…
Mrs. Sketchbook, did your baby’s stools look watery like diarrhea when it turned green?
GOLD / nectarine / 2884 posts
@purrpletulips: Wow! That is a LONG list of difficulties. It sounds intense! I salute you
@Mrs. Blue: Best of luck! I feel sure it will work out for you. They say the first two months are the hardest. After that, everything starts to even out. Of course with two I have no idea! My mom had twins and managed to nurse them for about four months I think before she moved on to formula. Of course this was back in the nineties where there was so little support for that kind of thing, so four months was more than pretty much everyone else was doing. With a little luck and a lot of commitment you’ll be successful!
@Mrs. Stroller: Sometimes I wish I had just gone the pump route. I wasn’t disciplined enough to pump and it always stressed me out to keep it clean, etc., in the beginning when I could hardly keep myself and my house clean. I also had a few problems with freezing milk (accidentally left the freezer door cracked) when I was first attempting to pump and basically got so discouraged that I decided I was too lazy to pump every day and manage a freezer stash. Now I am returning to work in a few weeks (just super part time, teaching only one class twice a week) and could use a freezer stash!
@Michelle: that idea of using the flange is genius! I was away through two feedings this weekend and was engorged as heck….tonight I used the flange while nursing and got an ounce in just a few minutes. Then he started kicking it, lol, so I had to stop! I’m amazed you dealt with both under and oversupply. I am a little worried I may get to the undersupply soon; I really can’t pump more than 3 oz. per session right now, but I think it has to do with the quality of my pump maybe? I know he’s gaining like a champ!
@hilsy85: Hm, very interesting! I am honestly not sure. In my case block feeding was necessary because A. I wanted to re-train my boobs not to make so much milk and B. I wanted to ensure that Scribble got plenty of hindmilk. If your LO’s stools are not green I would assume that he is getting plenty of hindmilk. Does he seem fussy at the breast? When they have to gulp they end up taking in a lot more air and that makes them gassy and fussy.
@tororojo: You’ll do great! Read a lot but also know that your baby’s personality will have a lot to do with the success or troubles you experience… for example, I am convinced that my kid just prefers a slower flow. I have heard from other women with oversupply that made a lot more milk than me. But I think that my kid really just prefers a softer breast. So what would be a problem for me might not be a problem for a baby who didn’t have such a strong aversion. It really is a delicate dance…! They aren’t kidding when they call it a “nursing relationship.”
@mrskc: It is so cool to see babies become “interactive” with the boob, lol! I think it has been really beneficial for him to have more agency in the feeding process. And YES to insane weight gain– I met a girl who was talking about her kid doubling his birth weight at four months and I was like PSSH TRY TWO. But mine was a mini at 6 lbs 10 oz. so it wasn’t difficult for him.
@mrs. wagon: Wow, all that sounds so intense, especially the D-MER! I’ve never heard of that. Wow. I was also so vigilant about fixing my supply problem through block feeding. I don’t think we did a bottle for about a month. I started pumping about a week ago and I am only doing it once a day and only pumping 3 ounces, enough so that I can run out and go to the store and daddy has a backup plan. I did some Christmas shopping today and came back so engorged I was leaking all over the place. I am a little worried tomorrow will be awful because I will be so engorged but as he gets older he can handle the flow a lot better. I am not sure if I have ever had a plugged duct; I have knots but nursing usually works them out. I was reading an article about leaking (something I do all.the.stinking.time.) and it said that some women DO NOT leak, even when engorged. They said that women who do not leak are more likely to get mastitis, etc. Ever since then I’ve tried to see my leaking problem as a good thing!
@jetsettermomma: They were definitely watery like diarrhea, although most of his yellow stools are pretty loose too. You can check the quality of your milk. I know this is going to sound gross, but I usually pinch my nipple to express a drop or two. If it looks like skim or water, its foremilk, if it looks like heavy cream it is hindmilk. Sometimes I will have one breast in the foremilk phase and other in hindmilk, I just switch him off to make sure he gets both
Good luck!
cherry / 178 posts
Thank you, Mrs. Sketchbook! I contacted my lactation consultant and she suggested pumping out my other breast (I’ve already been doing block feeding) but to separate the hind milk and to make sure I feed all of the pumped hind milk to baby. We tried it this past weekend and his stools are back to the beautiful mustardy yellow color with some seeds. They’re still really runny, though (kinda soup or gravy like in consistency). His pediatrician wants to test for allergies to rule them out. We’ve done so many tests (stool and blood) already and none have been conclusive. I’m going to continue the increased hind milk feeding. Hopefully it will make more of a difference as the days go by.
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Thank you so much! I am experiencing the exact same issue and am taking a block feeding approach as of today. There’s so much information out there and yet I’ve struggled with the support available, reading your experience has given me the confidence to try to remedy this issue independently, rather than simply be reassured once again that my baby is putting on weight so there can’t be anything wrong (despite a a powerful and painful let down, and a baby struggling to cope with foremilk imbalance and a gushing supply). Hopefully my baby and I will resolve this oversupply issue and both start to enjoy breastfeeding.