As Liam rapidly approaches his first birthday, Mr. TTT and I have been talking about when we might want to have another baby. We’ve always known we wanted more than one child, so the question hasn’t been if, but when. At first, it seemed like an easy decision to make – we’d try to get pregnant this coming summer, putting me on a similar maternity leave schedule which gives me an extra two months with summer break from school. This would put our children about two years apart, which is an ideal age gap in Mr. TTT’s mind. He and his sister are a little less than two years apart and he has fond memories of growing up with a sibling close in age. However, as we think about it more and more, it isn’t so simple.
Mr. TTT and his big sister, circa 1982
The first thing to consider is the fact that we may have trouble conceiving again. It took a little over a year for us to get pregnant the first time and we conceived twice on clomid, but lost the first pregnancy very early. I had hopes that a successful pregnancy would sort of reset my system and help my fertility, but I still haven’t started my cycle yet. I am still breastfeeding, but Liam has been sleeping through the night since he was 4.5 months old, except for a couple nights here or there, and usually nursing moms begin their cycles once their babies sleep longer stretches at night. Since I still haven’t started mine, I suspect I’ll have similar issues when we try to get pregnant again.
I spoke to my doctor about this and told him of my plan to very slowly wean Liam – I’d like to stop pumping at work when he’s one, but continue breastfeeding in the morning and at night for as long as we’re both enjoying it. My doctor said that I had two choices. First, I could completely wean him at one year and see if my body goes on a “normal” cycle on its own. If it didn’t, I could take medication to bring on my period and then do clomid again when we were ready to try for baby number two. The other choice would be to continue nursing at morning and night and put off the baby plan until Liam completely weaned (unless I started my cycle while still nursing and got pregnant, which is also a possibility). He said I can’t take any medication while nursing (which makes sense), so now I’m considering weaning at a year, earlier than I originally planned.
Another thing to consider is my weight. I’m finally at the point where I’m comfortable in my skin again and pretty happy with my post-baby body. I’d like to be able to experience a summer where I feel confident going out in public in a swim suit, which hasn’t been the case for the past two years. If I get pregnant this summer, that would make four years of feeling bad about myself in a bathing suit. In addition, if I continued breastfeeding I would be burning extra calories, which helps with my body image (and food-loving tendencies).
Liam being weighed at his 9 month check-up
Lastly, I’m not sure I’m really ready to introduce a new member to our little family of three. I can’t imagine dividing my attention between a toddler and newborn, and I don’t want to feel like I’m cheating on Liam with the new baby – this is how my aunt described feeling when she had two boys less than two years apart. I’m enjoying him so much and I don’t know if I’m ready to rock his world by giving him a sibling quite yet.
Of course, all of this is ultimately out of our hands. We can make a plan and try to control things, but if I’ve learned anything, it’s that life has its own plan and it’s usually better than the one I try to come up with. For now, I’m trying my hardest to just go with the flow and not worry about what will happen next month or next year. Liam is already starting to decrease his bottles and nursing sessions on his own, so maybe he will wean on his own much earlier than I expect. And maybe he won’t, which is ok, too. I’ll just try to take each day as it comes and appreciate my time with Liam as my only baby.
What factors did you consider when thinking about trying for a second baby?
blogger / honeydew / 8521 posts
This is exactly where we were right before we TTC #2. I was ready to wait until Wagon Jr. was 3 before trying for a second. Then we decided that we wanted them to be as close in age as possible so that they could be close. By then Wagon Jr. was already almost 2, so we tried right away. Bam! WJ and LMW are 2 years and 7 months apart. I found it to be a great age difference so far.
GOLD / apricot / 348 posts
We decided to not even think about it until, well, it popped into our heads. We hadn’t made any plans about the number of kids we would have, but when our older one was about 18 months, we decided to have a second. We had an adult-only trip to Italy booked, and I wanted to enjoy wine while there, so when we got home we started trying and BAM! 2 years, 5 months apart. And for us, it is perfect.
GOLD / nectarine / 2146 posts
We knew we wanted them close, so we started TTC with #2 shortly after DD turned 18m. We got pregnant pretty quickly the first time around and the same held true for the second so we were fortunate. DS was born when DD was 29m so they are almost exactly 2 1/2 years apart.
With DD, she was sleeping through the night by 4.5m as well but my cycle didn’t return until I dropped a daytime pumping session at 9m; we continued to nurse until 14m. You may find that if you drop one or all pumping sessions your cycle might return without having to give up BF entirely.
GOLD / persimmon / 1381 posts
DH originally wanted a 2 year age difference, but I’m really glad we didn’t go for that. DS is now 21 months, and I’m having a lot of fun with him, but he’s also a LOT of work- I’m glad that a.) I don’t have to give up any of our one-on-one time with him, and b.) I don’t have to worry about another kid when I’m trying to keep DS in line when we’re out, or in his chair at a restaurant, etc.
My job also has a lot to do with our timing- I was really sick during pregnancy, and while my office was really great about it, I felt bad about the fact that I was definitely not performing that well for much of my pregnancy, then took 10 weeks off, and then was still pretty out of it for a while trying to manage the pumping and the childcare and the infant who never slept more than 3 hours at a time…
It was pretty important to me to be able to put in a good year or so of solid work that I’m proud of before getting pregnant again and only paying partial attention in meetings because I’m trying to gauge the amount of time I have left before I need to barf.
persimmon / 1494 posts
LO is six months old now. Right now I think we’d like to start trying a few months after her second birthday to try and have kids three years apart. The biggest factors for us are that I would like to go to working part time at that point, so I feel like I need to put in a few more good years at work to have that option and DH needs a few more years for his income to ramp up to cover my lost income. I also have a huge work project with a deadline of June 1, 2015, so I’d like to be due after that to ensure I can see it through. I also want to enjoy having my body back for a while before I put it through the stress of pregnancy again!
blogger / clementine / 888 posts
@purrpletulips: Good to know, thanks!
GOLD / pear / 1757 posts
Excellent post! My LO is only 7 weeks but I’m already thinking about #2.
coffee bean / 38 posts
My first little one just turned 17 months (love this age!!) and DH and I both have really great careers that sometimes demand a little extra of our time. And we want 2 kids…
What is most influencing our decision is that I’m ‘advanced maternal age’ (love seeing that on my OBGYN visits). So we don’t have forever to decide. We are starting this month to try for # 2.
At least maybe I’ll have an excuse why I’m not bathingsuit ready again this summer :)
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um, I could have written this word for word! I’m in the exact same place as you guys, although I’m slightly obsessing over it while you seem much more go with the flow lol. the choice to wean to get preggers is tough. ds will be one next week, no period yet and prob won’t have one until I go back on meds which I can’t do with breastfeeding. I had always wanted kids around 2 years apart for then to be close and because I’m older and need to do it soon if we were to do it. sigh. such huge decisions. I wish it were up to fate to make the choice for me, but I have to choose with meds…I still don’t know what to do. ds is still nursing even though I have about 2 months frozen kill supply…oh and every tine I try to wean I get mastitis. awesome!
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sorry…auto correct. I have a couple months of frozen milk supply lol…
apricot / 265 posts
My son is 9 1/2 months and quite frankly I can’t even bear to think about going through the whole pregnancy & newborn thing again! But I’m 35 and I don’t want to wait too long before trying for #2. The biggest factor right now is my job because everything stems from that. I’m still commuting downtown from the suburbs and it’s hell. I have to find a job closer to home to just make our present situation more bearable before we can start thinking about #2. Then there’s the reality that if I started a new job I’d have to wait a few months before TTC in order for me to qualify for FMLA (and to not piss off my new co-workers!). We didn’t have any trouble getting pregnant the first time so that’s the one thing I’m not too terribly concerned about.
blogger / pear / 1817 posts
I wan’t ready at your stage either, then at 14 months I suddenly was. I thought it might take a while but we got pregnant the next week, giving my girls a 23 month spacing. We only wanted two however, so even though it’s a bit rough to be pregnant/baby/pregnant/baby for four years, at least it’s done!
olive / 87 posts
2 years was my ideal age gap. But I didn’t care if they were closer. We ‘loosely’ used preventative methods after Baby #1 when I was still breastfeeding but didn’t have my cycle. When my hubby asked what I wanted for my birthday (june) I joked “To start trying for #2′ – even though I didn’t have my cycle back… I just wanted him to be ready for that step. He said YES and I kid you not my cycle started the day after my birthday about 10 mo postpartum :) Apparently my body likes to get pregnant in Nov though. The kids are 2 years minus 15 days apart. It’s not easy… but I wouldn’t have it any other way. (they are 2.5 and .5 right now)
That being said…. the one thing that I would have been ok disrupting my prefect timeline is nursing. I don’t think I would have been willing to stop nursing just to get my cycle back so we could try for #2. That did somehow feel wrong to me. As it was my son nursed until he was 18 months. About the end of my first trimester with #2. My body and milk changing may have effected him wanting to nurse… but I feel like he was nursing less and this was a very natural decision for both of us when he stopped.
I’m REALLY glad I didn’t have to make that decision!
Good luck with whatever you decide. Like you said… planning is not always up to us :)
GOLD / pear / 1583 posts
DH and I never had a chance to decide when would be a good time to try having a second child because before we knew it, the situation was taken completely out of our hands. My second pregnancy was confirmed almost a year and a month to the day I found out about my first LO.
While my DH was equal parts thrilled and concerned about child #2 – we both knew we wanted at least two children -, I’m afraid I’m in the same boat with you @Mrs. TicTacToe. I wanted time to enjoy my LO, who is about to turn one. He’s just started toddling and I’m enjoying being with him so much. I’m afraid what this next LO is going to do, both to our family and to #1 LO’s world. I know it’ll be great having them grow up together but it’s hard to think of that with my due date approaching in a month. I feel like my time with Henry has an expiration date almost.
apricot / 413 posts
My cycle did not return until 15 months…that’s when we dropped down to morning/nap/bedtime nursing. My cycle didn’t even out until 18-19 months, which is when we dropped to morning/bedtime. I think you’ll see things change when you drop the pumping and/or he nurses less. Many see their cycle return with STTN, but like you, mine didn’t and I know many who are the same way.
blogger / clementine / 888 posts
@ohapostrophe: I really hope that’s what happens!! Thank you for the info!
blogger / clementine / 888 posts
@babycrz: I couldn’t agree more. I really don’t want to force Liam to stop nursing before we’re both ready.
blogger / clementine / 888 posts
@yuri: Don’t be fooled! I’m internally obsessing, too. I’m really trying not to, though!!
blogger / clementine / 888 posts
@kml636: Oh my goodness, I was definitely not in that mind frame at 7 weeks postpartum!!!
hostess / hostess with the mostess / 21072 posts
I got my period back at 7 months pp and contined to nurse Lo. We decided not to prevent or try, but to go with the flow..
I think I conceived 3 days after Lo turned 1. I have 2 under 2 and the kids are 21 months apart. So far so good!
My dd is at an age where she’s not too interested in her brother and hasn’t shown any jealousy.
It would have been nice if I had potty trained her before the baby arrived, but it’s ok :P
blogger / pear / 1691 posts
Since we went from 0 to 3without discussion the only child we talked about timing with was our fourth. Like you I had trouble conceiving. Two years and an adoption later I was pregnant with twins. When we were considering our next child we both talked about how old we wanted our twins to be. We both said three would be good. But then we had to consider how long it took to get pregnant before. It was over two years for us and several failed fertility treatments. So we decided to look at it differently. We decided we needed to look at the minimum age for our twins to be where we wouldn’t completely loose our minds with infant/toddler mania. We both agreed that although 3 was ideal we could manage two. We also had a trip coming up and didn’t want to be 6 months pregnant for the trip so we decided to hold off a few months. We ended up getting pregnant the first time (literally) with no protection. I don’t have a regular cycle and I Just never had another period after saying we could try.
I totally understand the wanting your body for a bit. For six years I have been TTC/pregnant/nursing. I am ready (but a little sad) for my daughter to wean so I can just be me for a it.
blogger / persimmon / 1193 posts
I’m not thinking about it yet even though I’ll be 36 soon and had to see a RE to stay pregnant with M. We’ll see….
In re: to your period, M slept through the night 9+ hours starting at 3 weeks. I didn’t get my period until I stopped my one pump session during the day at 11 months. The same is true for at least a half dozen of my girlfriends. All but one of them had early STTN babies and no one got their period before a year (lucky me!) Also in my December 2011 group of the six women who are pregnant right now, three of them had to have IVF for the first baby and all got pregnant within a couple months of trying the second time! I definitely wouldn’t assume you’re going to have a problem. Our bodies change a lot during pregnancy and bf’ing.
GOLD / kiwi / 743 posts
I was advised by my OB not to get pregnant for two years due to having a cesarean.
blogger / clementine / 888 posts
@ChelseaRose: My OB was the one who said to wean at a year if I wanted to get pregnant in the summer! That would put my births two years apart, which is the recommendation I’ve heard.
GOLD / kiwi / 743 posts
@mrs. tictactoe: maybe I misunderstood the two year rec. I think I would like my first to be out of diapers or almost out of them by the time the second is born so that we will have enough diapers.
blogger / clementine / 888 posts
@ChelseaRose: that’s a good point!!
blogger / cantaloupe / 5107 posts
Mavrick and Sienna are 22 months apart and it’s wonderful. I personally wouldn’t be able to do younger, but I think anywhere past the 18 month mark is “easier” Personally, I had the same fears, but you are two parents, so it helps. Mr. Sunglasses spends a lot of time with Mavrick which is perfect seeing he was all me until i gave birth, and now I give my attention to Sienna. Obviously we switch but it’s been perfect and i wouldn’t see it any other way.
hostess / grapefruit / 4611 posts
@ChelseaRose: Same here.
LO will be two soon, but because of the window of months we would like our next LO’s birthday to be, we probably wouldn’t start TTC until this fall. It will make our kids more than 3 years apart and I’m okay with that since I’m afraid of how different life will be like with two kids, lol.