Dear My Fertile Friends,
First of all, I want you to know that this is not going to be an offensive, fertile bashing post. I simply want to let you in on something that your infertile friends might not be telling you.
Women with infertility often find it difficult to speak to women about their issues if said women are not also infertility sufferers. It isn’t that we don’t like you, but it’s hard. Kind of like if you have a question about your child, you probably won’t ask a friend that doesn’t have children. You know how annoying it is when people without children offer you parenting advice? Your friends with infertility feel this same way when suggestions are made that maybe if they tried this, or tried that, they could get pregnant. If you suggest that they relax, you should be prepared for a gut punch. Your friend that is up to her ears in IVF pamphlets and RE paperwork has tried to relax. She knows.
Also, don’t suggest to her that she adopt. Adoption isn’t for everyone, and it isn’t a second place choice for infertile couples. Don’t tell her that she will get pregnant as soon as she starts the adoption process. This does happen for some people, but for some people it doesn’t.
The best thing I can say to explain it to you, is that your friend is mourning. As we know from Elizabeth Kübler-Ross there are five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. In my own personal experience, these stages don’t just apply to death, but also the loss of an idea. Your friend is struggling with the loss of the idea of how her life was supposed to be. She was supposed to get pregnant right when she wanted to, just like other women. She wanted to have children before she reached a certain age. I can promise you that no one wants to go through fertility treatments. No one wants to wait when they’re ready, and no one wants to intentionally take medicine to make them a crazy person.
We love you, and we appreciate your concern, but please don’t take our problems upon yourself and try to fix them. We will work through this, and we will come out on the other side one way or another. Some day we will move into the acceptance stage of grief, it just might not be today.
Sincerely yours,
Mrs. Polish
grapefruit / 4663 posts
Yes this! My mom was the person who got pregnant every time she even thought about it so for it to take me 18 months and finally with the help of Clomid, she never really got it. She told me repeatedly just relax, ugh.
cherry / 101 posts
i wish i could forward this to everyone i know. highlighting the “If you suggest that they relax, you should be prepared for a gut punch. Your friend that is up to her ears in IVF pamphlets and RE paperwork has tried to relax. She knows.” it helps to feel not alone on hb. all my friends that had fertility issues still got pregnant within 18 months. i’ve far surpassed that, so even those friends’ comments have become hard to hear.
blogger / pomegranate / 3201 posts
While I was able to get pregnant with minimal interventions (clomid, 1st round miscarraige, 2nd round successful pregnancy – took a little over a year), I also experienced the stages of grief during that year of trying unsuccessfully. Great post!
pomelo / 5041 posts
All of this is very true and I’ve found that in a way it expands into pregnancy too. As a formerly infertile woman (thank God for IUIs) I worry so much more during my pregnancy than many women who got pregnant right away. Because for me, I’m always assuming the bottom will fall out, that once again I will fail at this. And unlike them, it’s not as simple as trying again, but thousands of dollars and pounds of stress to attempt to be a mom once more. That’s hard for my pregnant friends to understand sometimes, hell it’s even hard for DH to understand sometimes.
One word of advice to those lucky enough to get pregnant without help – don’t try to over sympathize. I had a friend get pregnant right away during my struggle who said to me, “I wish it was you instead.” This was the worst comment I heard the whole time, because really, no you don’t and I wouldn’t either if I were you.
honeydew / 7916 posts
I need to send this to people…I am so tired of people saying to me, “Are you going to adopt?” “You know, plenty of people just don’t have any kids and they’re happy.”
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I totally relate with this. Infertility is the death of a dream, and it must be grieved for one to be able to move past it. Worst comment I ever heard from a well-meaning individual: “God means for all people to have biological children. If you’re not able to, you need to deal with your sin and then you’ll be able to have children.” Also, as a new mother to an adopted son, it is hurtful to tell people that they will get pregnant as soon as they adopt. We chose adoption deliberately, and not as a ploy to get pregnant.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
@Bree I can’t believe someone said that to you! That’s terrible.
cherry / 181 posts
blogger / coconut / 8306 posts
@Bree I absolutely cannot believe someone actually said that to you! My heart is breaking for you.
“Just relax” is, quite honestly, infuriating for me. You’re right… we’re knee deep in paperwork, forms, insurance letters, covered in bandaids from bloodwork, and duh! It never crossed our minds to “just relax” If it weren’t for our friends/family to tell us to “just relax” we never would have thought of it on our own.
nectarine / 2705 posts
“your friend is mourning”
“Your friend is struggling with the loss of the idea of how her life was supposed to be.”
Yes, and yes. I have friends checking in on me because I’ve become pretty withdrawn from social activities as I work through these medicated cycles and the failure of them. I wish I could easily tell them what I’m going through. And not have to go into any more explanation other than I’m working through something that’s hard to explain – I’ll see you on the other side.
kiwi / 511 posts
Amen and sing it sister!
I have been there and really just wanted to scream at people, who mean well but just don’t get it. I wish I had seen this two years ago because I would have forwarded it to every person that wanted to be supportive.
apricot / 391 posts
@Leialou: I agree, that is insane that someone said that to you @Bree. How ignorant!!
guest
This is awesome and so how I feel all the time lately! SO glad I’m not alone!
guest
This was so well written- I wish I had this several years ago… I would have emailed it to everyone and added at the end- “no need to and please do not respond- just take in what was just said!”
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Yes! I could’ve written this letter. I would often tell pregnant friends “I’m happy for you but sad for me” and that seemed to help them understand at least a little bit.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
Thank you for writing this.
I do have to say that the adoption comments don’t bother me. We are going to try a couple more IUIs before starting the adoption process. I do understand that adoptions and/ or IUIs/IVFs are not for everyone. Each one takes a different kind of strength. Having to wait is hard enough. Then having to take the next step… Ugh, I have no words.
I have found that it can be very comforting hearing a fertile friend tell me that she is sorry we are having trouble and that she is thinking of us. Just those simple words are all I need.
cherry / 123 posts
I agree with everything in this post, especially the grieving.
I found a quote by Laura Bush, who went through infertility for a long time before concieving the twins, and I think it sums it up really well:
“The English language lacks the words ‘to mourn an absence.’ For the loss of a parent, grandparent, spouse, child or friend we have all manner of words and phrases, some helpful, some not. Still, we are conditioned to say something, even if it is only ‘I am sorry for your loss.’ But for an absence, for someone who was never there at all, we are wordless to capture the particular emptiness. For those who deeply want children and are denied them, those missing babies hover like silent, ephemeral shadows over their lives. Who can describe the feel of a tiny hand that is never held?”
nectarine / 2964 posts
@Mrs. Polish: Thanks for this post. I went through a very long period of infertility too myself so I can relate.
I know you said infertile women don’t talk to fertile women about their pains in infertility, but there are times they do bring the topic up by themselves. What would be your suggestion to fertile women about appropriate things to say to infertile women about infertility, when that happens?
blogger / nectarine / 2010 posts
@Jetsa: My mom had IF, but obviously she got pregnant. I’ve tried to help her understand that just because we’re similar we’re not the same. Relaxing is so hard.
@everbee: Big hugs to you my friend.
@Mrs. Tictactoe: I am so happy to hear that Clomid worked for you. Grief is hard, and it helps to hear success stories!
@Marionberry: well said. I don’t have anything to add because you’ve covered it all.
@spaniellove: It’s hard to hear what people say even though they mean well. Especially if you’re hearing it over and over.
@bree: Oh my goodness! I cannot believe someone would say such a thing. How awful. God loves us, he would never hurt us like that.
@sweetooth: I know what you’re saying. I broke up with my best friend and I really can’t even say why now. I couldn’t handle social situations and even though my husband was in it with me, I isolated myself. You can’t talk about it with people until you’re ready, but once I started explaining to people what was going on, I felt a little more free. It’s so easy for us to carry all of the burden ourselves, but our friends ask because they care about us.
@bluestripedbee: I should have included in my post that the best comment I ever got was from a fertile friend who simply sent me a message and said “I hate this for you. This sucks”. I still tear up thinking about how it made me feel. Just those few words helped me to understand that she cared about me and knew how much pain I was in, even if she hadn’t experienced it. The adoption comments never bothered me, because I always felt like we would adopt either way. However, a friend of my moms went through 6 IVF cycles and numerous other treatments trying TTC for twenty years. She told me that it upset her so much when people, and even doctors, would suggest she adopt because she knew that it isn’t something she could ever do. Some people just can’t.
@loveletter: I love Laura Bush. I read the book that quote was written in and cried and cried. She said it so perfectly. I encourage you to check out her autobiography if you like her. The book is mostly about her life as First Lady, but she does discuss their problems TTC however briefly. They didn’t have a super easy road, and it helps to know that even people we don’t think we have anything in common with aren’t so different than us after all.
@Irene: I don’t know that I can actually say what fertile women should say. Even the most innocent of comments can be offensive to a woman depending on her state of mind. One time my husband was making fun of Ross from an episode of Friends but I misunderstood and thought he was making fun of me and my feelings got hurt. If I hadn’t been so stressed out from having so many things on my mind I wouldn’t have taken it so personally. All of that to say that sometimes the best thing to say is “this sucks, I hate this, and I’m sorry you’re going through this.” A fertile friend of mine said those words to me and I cried because I felt like she really cared about how I was feeling and even though she hadn’t experienced it, she knew it was hard.
pomegranate / 3764 posts
This post is so very true. People do mean well, but it’s one of the most sensitive subjects there is & really, it hurts. I can’t count the number of times in our nearly 2-year journey that I bawled my eyes out because of comments made to us.
I’m so grateful to be pregnant now (thanks to several rounds of IVF) but I will never, ever, get over that struggle.
coffee bean / 41 posts
Like Irene, I really wish I knew what to say to be helpful. A dear friend of mine has been suffering from infertility for about 3 years now. In the beginning, she talked to me about all of her appointments, but as the years wore on, she stopped. And, I just wish that I knew what to say to ease her pain even just a little bit. I care for her so much, and just hope that she knows that.
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….going 8 yrs ttc. Runs of clomid.. runs of invasive u/sounds, poking needles. To final … silence. I am in my very early twenties. Dh is older and in stunning health. We tried..really hard. Competing wt hypo thyroid, endometriosis, inverted uterus, …and recently thyroid cancer..was not a cat walk. (M/c at almost third tri)
Words/comments that hurt?
….ddon’t worry it will happen one day. ( yea I hope so too)
…..you can adopt if anything.( yep thnx.. believe me I know and I have already ran laps around the thought at 3 am)
…..relax it will happen when the time us right. ( 8yrs don’t tell ne time needs to be right)
…..it will happen if its meant to be… (so what about those who neglect and are put in difficult situations where they need to terminate how come they are)
…go on a cruise…dont think really love your dh and just make love dont try to think of getting pregnant. It comes from love you it needs to happen from ( lol.. I love him alright. .a lot. Nit only can I not get pregnant I now am hearing I dont love my Dh in bed. – great )
…..this is a technology evolved world. .drs can help. Just keep trying and seek help.
…you’re just not ready to be a mom I guess. *no words for this I longed to be a mom it was right at the top of my list since I was a kid*
…..maybe you not having kids is for the best.. After all u and dh do argue. ( we all do.. but dont say that)
..dont say at least you can sleep. .look like a super model
….your still young..you have time.( exactly my point …im young 8 yrs is damn long)
….you have cancer… wow … ok so maybe thats y god didn’t give you one. .things happen for the best.
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….yep…heard them all… it hurt me more then they will ever know
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Lastly. I m/c at 33weeks… I bowed to the porcelain goddess.. had swollen feet. .teeter totting wobble. Sore breasts. Craving. Aches. And lovely tiger prints on my tummy too remind me each day of what was once there. As im sitting there speaking. . My knowledge begs one to ask ….Are You A Mommy.. Do You Have Kids.
I get their question but its painful and I can answer it what I can cope with ppls awkward silence.
Co workers and friends have 1 2 3 4 kid’s. . And when they find out they don’t share the joys if it all. In fear of me evil eying or hurting me … they share with everyone but me. It hurts me. Yes I am having difficulty but …pls dont single me out. I want to share your joys.. I live a little hearing your beams n smiles. I too once was there.. once you have your kids dont demean my knowledge of motherhood cuz now you know more then I do.
Cus
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Only difference happens to be you made it all the way and I didn’t. Which is okay. .but please don’t treat me any less.
Email works sometimes. But if someone emailed me…id cry. I prefer them calling sharing their joy. And letging me off the phone to cry. And cope.
I feel so sad when friends take their child from my arms or cut me off when I lovingly play. Worried that I might get hurt more.. or feel my losses harder. I mourn. ..harder that im ripped again.
Little things hurt.. I wish my friends will share joys of pregnancy and motherhood with me. Instead if shuffling awkwardly.
Last Plea
…Mothers Day… Please don’t forget me.. and wish me. My pregnancy my only pregnancy was a real pregnancy. The closest I got in my 8 yrs of ttc. Please do not skip me.. on this day. Just because my child is not in my arms today..does not mean I was nit a mother. Or desire to be that mother..pls still celebrate with me… and kindly wish me well. Don’t push me in a corner for my losses and pitty me or treat me like glass.
I love you..your big growing belly… your dimpled child and your beaming pregnant smile. I wish I could be you.. so pls tell me when it happens. Please dont hide.. pls be sensitive. .little words hurt me …very much. When im trying to have a little one if my own to hold…