From the time I was a little girl, I always said I wanted four kids: two boys and two girls. What can I say? I like even numbers. I even always said I wanted identical twins, and half jokingly told my mom while I was in college to pray that someday I would have twins but to not tell my future husband that she prayed that! Ha! As cool as I though that would be, I certainly never imagined it would really happen. Most people would probably be all for being two and through if the first pregnancy was twins, but Mr. Blue has caught the four-baby bug, too. We know that we definitely want another child and we’re both open to a fourth if it feels right after the third. Plus, I want to grow up and be Mrs. Train, complete with all her theme-week awesomeness, so I’m hoping having twins and four kids total will help me channel her! I kid, I kid . . . sort of.
Like most parents who know they want more than one child, we’ve spent a fair amount of time discussing sibling spacing. When we found out that our first and second child were going to be . . . um . . .rather close in age (only 1 minute apart, in fact), that made us think very, very carefully about when to consider TTC again. We love our boys so much and think they are the most fun dudes on the planet, but we’re just not up for 3 kids under 2. Both of my brothers have daughters 18 months apart, so I’ve seen it done and done well, but we’re not tough enough for that!
So, when do we think we would like to start thinking about bambino #3? We’re in firm agreement that we will not TTC until the boys are a minimum of 2-years old. It might be longer than that, but that is our official “It’s okay to start discussing it” date. This ensures that the Baby Dudes would be almost three, minimum, before we added another to the mix. As for a hypothetical #4, we will most likely adopt if we go for #4, so spacing and timing won’t really be up to us. We would like all of our kids to be within 2-3 years of their siblings, but we also know there’s really no way to guarantee this whether through biological or adoptive processes.
There’s a million factors that go into ideal child spacing and number. We both came from families of three. We agree that this number often leaves one kiddo left out, but two just isn’t enough for us. We hope that by having an even number and 4 kids, there’s a better chance that everyone will always have a playmate. Wishful thinking perhaps, but its worth a shot. We also both think big families are generally a lot of fun (and a lot of work, too). Yes, there can be a lot of chaos, but we love the idea of having a houseful of kiddos. We’re totally the couple that fantasize about how fun it will be someday when they’re grown and everyone descends on our house for the holidays–just a mini-Brady Bunch! At the same time, having two babies is exhausting, and there are times I tell Mr. Blue that I just don’t think I can do this all over again. I think most parents feel that way now and then when their kids are still little and not sleeping consistently through the night, but even during this time, more often than not, I really want more kids eventually.
As for spacing between kids, we know there’s no guarantees, but we would really like them to be 2 1/2-3 1/2 years apart. Growing up, I was a lot closer to my brother who just under 3 years older than me, while my brother that was 5 1/2 years older and I were always at ages that didn’t mesh well together. Mr. Blue is roughly a decade older than his sisters, so he really wants our kids to be close so they have the same shared memories and experiences. We want to give our kids the best possible chance of growing up friends (or best frienemies depending on the phase!), and we hope a 2 1/2-3 1/2 year gap will foster a tight relationship. At the same time, this gives us a chance to hope the boys will be potty trained by the time #3 arrives, and it gives us lots and lots of time to enjoy the Baby Dudes before we add another to the mix.
I’d prefer to have any biological children before I’m 35, partially because of the risk increase and partially because I suspect the older you get pregnancy and parenting just become more physically taxing. The last factor in our considerations is that we really want our kiddos to be closer in age, and therefore, in college before we’re “too old” to enjoy the refound freedom of being empty-nesters. We didn’t start dating until I was 29, got married 15 months after that, and got pregnant 9 months after our wedding, and had the boys when I was 31. As much as we love our kids and are looking forward to raising them, traveling with them, going to games and recitals, etc., we also think it sounds nice to still be in our 50s when we get the last kiddo out of the house.
At the end of the day, if and when we have Baby #3 and hypothetical Baby #4 will be perfect and we’ll make it work, but we can dream until then that everything will follow our perfect little plans!
In a perfect world, how many children do you want and how far apart in age would you like them to be?
wonderful olive / 19353 posts
I totally laughed out loud at your comment “…rather close in age (only 1 minute apart, in fact),” !!! Oh Mrs. Blue…
Hubby and I want one of each or try for a third if we double up. Hubby wants them to be close in age also. He was already talking about baby deux just a month after DS was born!!! He’s cray cray. haha!
My younger brother and I are 4 years apart and we’re not close at all. Meanwhile, my baby cousin and I are 12 years apart, and I’m his favorite cousin (there’s 8 of us on his mom’s side and a few on his dad’s side). Odd!
pear / 1998 posts
I always wanted four too. Two boys and two girls – so everyone has at least one brother and one sister.
We don’t have any (yet) and would like to adopt as well. We are still trying to decide the best order for us. I would love them to be close in age.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
Hubs and I was two babies under two years! So ideally I’d get pregnant NOW! Just need AF to show back up to get this story started!
I’m excited that you might have a few more babies before you’re done!! Yay big families! I think we’ll be done after two, although I could definitely see how a big family could be fun! Hubs and I both grew up with just one sibling, so two kids is what we’re used to, so that’s the way we’re leaning!
blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts
@TemperanceBrennan: Yes, we say the same thing about everyone having a sister and everyone having a brother. It just sounds so fun! I hope you get that someday!
@Adira: I know it’s killing you to wait! It’s weird to say on Hellobee, but “C’mon, AF!”
@Alivoo01: Omg, at one month?!?!?! NO. Just no.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
@Mrs. Blue: Though once she DOES arrive, I’ll be dreading her showing up again!! She can’t win with me, haha!
pea / 14 posts
I also want four. Two is too few and with three (what I grew up with) there was always two against one.
persimmon / 1165 posts
I love big families! If I was younger, we’d definitely have more than 2.
wonderful olive / 19353 posts
@Adira: LMAO!!! Seriously right??? Even if you’re not TTC, you want her to show up to make sure everything is alright, then want her gone ASAP.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
@Alivoo01: haha, so true!!!
GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts
We want 2 and that is all. We would really like them at least 2 1/2 years apart. We are going to talk about it when R is 18 months. I am 35 in early 2014, so I don’t want to wait too long.
pomegranate / 3779 posts
DH is one of 8 and I am one of 4, so we are both hoping for a big family with both bio and adopted kids. Probably 4 and ideally 2-3 yes apart. My younger sister and I are less than a year and I feel that it resulted in us being way more competitive with each other than we would have been if we were further apart.
blogger / kiwi / 675 posts
It’s funny because we always wanted just two, plain and simple. After our first we couldn’t contemplate another one for about 9 months because she is intense. Now our second is only three months old and I want two more! Hahaha. Some days I say i’m done at two but I know it’s a lie. And I was in a family of three and feel like four being more even would be more my style
We shall see!!
GOLD / cantaloupe / 6581 posts
It depends on what day you ask me! Today, I want 2 under 2. Ask me again tomorrow and it’ll be ‘never again!!’ I think in reality though we are waiting until she is at least 2, mostly (ok, entirely) for financial reasons.
blogger / pomegranate / 3300 posts
Thanks for the love Mrs. Blue. It’s so hard for me to believe someone wants to be like me.
I have given up on family planning and sibling spacing. but I do love the 2-3 year range that I had with the three boys and Lilly they seem to still play but they are old enough to look out for her. I like it. James has requested two more sisters because he likes Lilly and wants some more. We will see! I am not opposed to adopting again but I think Mr. Train would not be up for six kids!
nectarine / 2797 posts
We aren’t decided on total number yet, though I think three will be our max. Right now we have one who is 15 months and plan to wait another year to TTC – so have our second right when she turns 3. If we go for a third probably will again try and have 3ish years between kiddos, but maybe as little as 2…so much depends on the personality of the second child and where we are career wise at that point.
blogger / persimmon / 1398 posts
I always love reading people’s thoughts on this. I would say three, three, three. Three kids, three years apart, three boys. Then Mini M came home and I was all “I’m one and done thankyouverymuch!” We both know how that turned out though, don’t we?!
Now, I’m two boys, four years apart, and thinking I’m done now. Really.
pear / 1614 posts
I am totally up for 4, but DH always wanted 2. Now we have DS and another DS on the way in a few weeks, they will be 22 mos apart, and we are both open to 3 but we’ll see what happens. I was ALL about trying for #2 immediately after DS was born, would have loved having them closer together, but I had to have a c section for #1 and they said I would be a better candidate for VBAC if we waited a year before trying again.
Since DH is a SAHD, I am going to respect his wishes as far as #3 and 4. Financially, I thought it would make more sense if we waited 3 years between this one and a third, plus I was trying to save him from being home with 3 little ones at once, but he said he likes the <2 year spacing! So do I, so we'll see.
pear / 1614 posts
@Mrs. Blue: I am also totally that person who dreams of having a chaotic house where something is always going on, with kids, grandkids, friends, etc all at home for the holidays. DH likes things a little more mellow
grape / 90 posts
It’s funny to see the comments about three kids being “two against one” or “one sibling always left out”. I’m the youngest of three and I don’t feel like that was my experience. So was my hubs, and he also liked being one of three. So I always say three or four, and DH is generally on board for three. We’ll see how we feel once we have two kids under age 3!
Like you, Mrs. Blue, I’d like to be done by 35.. but I know the plans aren’t always up to me. I’ll be 31.5 when I have baby #2 so we’ve got a little time.
grape / 90 posts
@Mrs. Paintbrush: Funny: my MIL had three boys, three years apart – your old dream! And she has always said she really, really wanted a girl. The grass is always greener…
pear / 1743 posts
Two and through for us, with our second born around 20-28 months after our first
I’m older (late 20s) so don’t want to leave it too long and will be a SAHM so need to take into account my total time out of the workforce.
blogger / persimmon / 1398 posts
@Schmei: The grass is always greener!! So true. I really don’t think I would know what to do with a girl though. I can’t even handle shopping for gifts for them!
pomegranate / 3225 posts
If only we could plan out perfectly the gender and month born
I’d love to have twins next !
pomegranate / 3595 posts
It is so interesting to see different people’s take on this. I had LO #1 when I was 32 so I couldn’t wait forever, but was nervous about having them too close together as the newborn stage was really draining for me. We thought about 2 1/2 years would be our minimum spacing and started trying recently.
I got pregnant our first month TTC and am now expecting #2 right around 30 months after #1 and the week before I turn 35. I hope it will turn out as well as we hope!
GOLD / apricot / 341 posts
When I first met my husband’s friends, they were all “Oh – so you’re the one who is going to have the seven children”. Apparently my husband’s hope for a biiig family was well-known. He used to talk about a 7-person soccer team. Then we had our first baby and suddenly he thought tennis was a better sport to aspire to – max 2 people on a team! I would have liked to have 4, but we started a little late (I was 32 when our first was born) and I had c-sections so that means max 3 biological kiddos for us.
pomegranate / 3053 posts
I used to want to have two sets of twins for the same reasons you want four kids – company and not feeling left out. Yeah, wishful thinking and I’m glad I didn’t after hearing about how much harder it is to have twins and raise them in the first few years since those are the tougher years. You mamas of multiples are my heroes! But at my age that would have been ideal…4 kids before I turned 40. I don’t mind having one more (a girl) but I think we are done with our two crazy boys. They drive me nuts and are great for birth control.