While I was in the Philippines, I read French Kids Eat Everything: How Our Family Moved to France, Cured Picky Eating, Banned Snacking, and Discovered 10 Simple Rules for Raising Happy, Healthy Eaters and absolutely loved it. It’s the story of how author Karen Le Billon, her husband, and two young children move to a small town in France where her husband grew up, and completely transform their (unhealthy) North American eating habits.
I used to think that my kids were picky because they ate far less than any of their peers. Charlie in particular never liked solids since he was an infant, had a very sensitive gag reflex/threw up frequently, and still struggles with constipation. But I’ve met children with true food issues from severe allergies, extreme sensitivities (only eating a handful of foods total) to swallowing issues, so I know that our challenges are much more trivial in comparison.
Admittedly eating is still one of my biggest daily parenting struggles though. The kids have small appetites (they’re more than happy to skip entire meals regularly), almost every meal is such a struggle even when I serve foods they like, and they have a great fear of trying new foods. In hopes of changing all this, I’ve been trying to think more French when it comes to our food rules. After an embarrassing family meal in the Philippines where Charlie and Olive refused to eat the lunch that was served (pickiness is not a problem in El Nido!), I was determined to apply some of the ideas in the book to my own kids and transform their eating habits.
There is much to say about this book, and I’ll probably devote at least one more post to it, but I thought I’d start with Le Billon’s 10 French Food Rules, and how I’ve been applying them to my own life.
1) Parents: You are in charge of food education!
Because I grew up in America but was raised with Korean food and eating habits, I’ve experienced two different philosophies towards food. Growing up my brother and I ate what my parents ate — I don’t think my parents ever ordered mac and cheese or a hot dog off a children’s menu for us. Sure we had preferences, but we always ate a huge range of healthy, whole foods. Sweets and desserts were not taboo either since we already knew how to enjoy and appreciate healthy foods.
So how did I end up raising two kids that dislike eating so much? At first I thought it was just genetics. Charlie just had very little interest in eating. Olive won’t even eat a lot of something she loves like ice cream. It was also easy to blame American culture. We cater to a child’s preferences. We have child-specific menus at restaurants. We are snack obsessed. And I didn’t really see this type of pickiness when I was growing up, or in other cultures, that seems much more prevalent in American culture now. But ultimately it is up to me to teach the kids about how to eat a broad range of healthy foods, and it is (mostly) in my control what, when and how they eat.
2) Avoid emotional eating. No food bribes, rewards, etc.
Even before reading this book, I knew there were food “rules” that I had been breaking, like this one. I would tell the kids they could/could not have dessert based on how well they ate their dinner, which was placing more value on dessert (it’s more delicious! it’s a reward/punishment!) than the main course. I also liberally used treats like lollipops and chocolate as rewards for short-term behavior results, but it could potentially have a long-term negative impact by them continuing to seek food rewards as adults.
Since reading this book, I’ve virtually eliminated food bribes and rewards, but it’s not always easy. A lollipop sure does cure a lot of problems… right away!
3) Parents schedule meals and menus. KIDS EAT WHAT ADULTS EAT! No short-order cooking!
I was totally guilty of being a short-order cook in the past. But in my defense, we all ate wildly differently. Mr. Bee has always followed more of a paleo lifestyle and I ate a lot of rice and spicy Korean foods, so I did tailor a lot of meals for the kids. I am much better at this now though and have a repertoire of meals that the whole family enjoys. I remember eating spicy food at a very young age because that’s what my parents ate, so I think the kids are definitely old enough to start eating (rinsed) kimchi!
4) Eat family meals together. No distractions.
Growing up my family ate dinner together every night with absolutely no distractions. We’ve done a pretty good job of family dinnertime since Olive was about 1 because it’s always been something that’s very important to me. But once in a while we’re so tired and low on patience that we turn on a video and let them watch it while they eat. Sometimes I’m just.too.tired to deal with mealtime shenanigans because it is so rare that they just eat. Charlie even recently said, “Remember that one time I almost finished my dinner?” And we knew exactly what he was talking about because it has only happened once this whole year.
5) Eat your veggies. Think variety.
The kids eat a decent variety of veggies now, but it really did take presenting each one many different times and prepared in many different ways. For instance it took me years to get them to like sweet potatoes. I prepared them baked whole, as french fries, mashed, sauteed; I cut them into cubes, long strips, circles… And even if they ate it and liked it once, it was no guarantee that they would eat them again. But I just kept on being persistent and it did eventually work. They finally love sweet potatoes!
6) You don’t have to LIKE it, but you do have to TASTE it. (Say at every meal.)
I’ve been trying to enforce this rule because the kids do not like trying new foods at all. But this can be difficult because Charlie has always had a very sensitive gag reflex. If he doesn’t like what he’s tried, or he simply doesn’t want to try it, he can and has thrown up. I do believe he had some sort of sensitivity because he’s been doing this since he was a baby. Still this rule does work in getting Charlie to try new foods. We haven’t been as successful with Olive because she’s just a honeybadger that does not care.
7) NO SNACKING! It’s okay to feel hungry between meals.
This is the single biggest change we’ve made in our lives. While we were in the Philippines, we completely eliminated all snacks so that the kids would be hungry at mealtimes. Unfortunately it had absolutely no effect because our kids are very skilled at skipping meals regularly and would rather starve than eat something new. But this just made so much sense to me. America has a huge snacking culture, and where there are children, there are snacks. I always carried snacks in my backpack because god forbid they feel hunger between meals! But Charlie and Olive can fill up on the smallest snack and not want to eat meals, so we’ve generally stuck to this rule.
Kids in France follow a strict three meals a day and one small snack schedule, but I think it’s easier to stick to that when their society and schools all follow those rules. Charlie and Olive do get two snacks at school during the week and I’m not going to stop them from being the only kids in class that can’t eat the class snack. And with 20+ kids per class, there is a birthday party with cupcakes practically every week. But I have eliminated the yummy snacky snacks from home. The kids used to regularly ask for snacks, and now they rarely do because they know that I will only give them something like fruit… which they almost always decline so I know they can’t be that hungry!
8) Slow food is happy food. As in eat slow.
We have slow eaters so I don’t anticipate this being a problem. But the reason they eat slow… is because they don’t enjoy eating.
9) Eat mostly real food. Treats for special occasions are ok.
Now that we’ve eliminated snacks, we are doing a pretty good job of this. We do give dessert occasionally after they’ve eaten their meal, and I think that’s fine because I don’t want them to binge every time they’re allowed sweets/desserts. Completing Whole30 also really changed the way I think about food, so we try to eat as whole as possible.
10) Remember eating is joyful. Relax!
Dinnertime should be a happy time. It’s the only time of day when we’re all sitting together, but more often than not it’s a stressful time of day for me. I’m tired, we always, always, always have to coax the kids to eat, and Olive has a tendency to get out of her chair. What I’d really like to do is make dinner more of a special event like the French do. Light candles (we already do this), use a tablecloth, play music… I want the kids to feel like dinner is fun and a privilege to be a part of!
I think one of my mistakes is also giving food too much power. If the kids eat well, I’m happy. If they don’t eat, then I worry about them being hungry or get upset when they won’t try something that I worked hard to cook. I don’t want to get upset, impatient, annoyed because that is just giving food more power. If they don’t like something, I can choose not to have a big negative reaction and move on. I don’t want to constantly talk about how much or how little food the kids ate, because it just gives food much more power than it should, and the kids totally pick up on that. If eating is a more joyful experience for us as parents, even when the kids don’t eat, I think it will be a more joyful experience for them.
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Do you have any rules you follow when it comes to feeding your kids?
Picky Eating part 5 of 6
1. 25 Ways to Avoid Raising a Picky Eater by Mrs. Bee2. 11 Best Tips for Picky Eaters by Food
3. Picky Eating: Is it in the Genes? by Extra Extra
4. The Psychology of a Picky Eater by Mrs. Chipmunk
5. French Kids Eat Everything? by Mrs. Bee
6. 10 Tips To Get Your Kids to Eat More by Mrs. Bee
blogger / nectarine / 2010 posts
We have a very un-picky eater and follow every single one of these rules except #2. One gummy bear can get us out the door so quickly! It’s a hard one to resist doing.
I also rarely ask my son if he’s hungry. I wait for him to tell me he’d like something to eat. We eat three meals a day, so it’s not often that he’ll ask except occasionally during dinner prep. For a snack I’ll put some tomatoes, peas or cukes on his plate to snack on while I finish cooking.
honeydew / 7444 posts
Even though we know LO doesn’t like certain foods, i’ll still put a little bit on her plate. I tell her that she at least has to LICK it. There are certain things she has come to eat because of it, like beets and tofu. I also find that helping with the food prep makes them more interested in trying new things. She once helped me shell fresh peas, and actually tried some the next day when i told her these were the peas she helped me shell.
We also always eat together and in general will not allow tv/ipad while eating. My weakness is that if she eats little for dinner, i’ll allow her to finish the rest of the meal before bedtime.
wonderful kiwi / 23653 posts
Its def not just a french thing; I grew up in Asia and remember eating what everyone else ate too. I also ate spicy food at a young age b/c my mom liked it! There were never any special exceptions. I do remember being able to eat kids meals once in a while. I really hope I can continue the same path with my kids!
blogger / pomegranate / 3201 posts
Very interesting! I think I am very relaxed about mealtimes. My husband gets tense if Liam doesn’t want to eat, but I try to stay calm and not make a big deal out of it. We are terrible with snacking, though. I don’t really use food as a bribe, but if I want to keep him happy while grocery shopping or something, I’ll give him a snack and it always works. Also, he sometimes gets really hungry right before dinner and he gets so upset. I feel awful making him wait while we finish cooking when I can tell he is just so hungry, so I will let him have something small like a piece of cheese to tide him over.
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I’m not sure that you can explain all pickiness away like this. I have a 2 year old who is very un picky and a 4 year old who would rather not eat then eat something he doesn’t like. (Also a honey badger who WILL NOT try anything he doesn’t think he’ll like, and if you do somehow convince him to put it in his mouth he gags/throws up)
My 4 year old eats dinner 1 or 2 times a week. Only if its something he likes. I do not make him separate meals or give him snacks later. He gets a (mandated) snack at preschool at 3:30, I do pack it and its always fruit and some kind of cracker/rice cake. So after 3:30 he doesn’t eat again until the next morning. He DOES eat a big breakfast thou.
clementine / 806 posts
I’m one of “those moms” that always has snacks on hand – even the unhealthy kinds. I also give them as rewards or bribes. And I’m also guilty of being a short order cook to get them to eat.
My LO is in daycare from 8:30-6. It’s a long day and she gets 2 meals plus a yogurt snack and fruit snack everyday. So she eats lots of small meals throughout the day. So she’s learned to eat until she’s no longer hungry, but never till she’s full. FRUSTRATING! Truth is though, I can handle it. I don’t mind giving her 4 small meals a day versus 3 larger ones.
My issue is that every social activity we take part in involves eating with other families. And this is when I feel self-conscious. Because I do give treats as a reward. Because I am willing to bribe. Because I always have snacks with me to use as a crutch when she’s getting a little cranky. And I feel like I’m silently being judged as the mom with bad feeding habits.
hostess / eggplant / 11068 posts
I break many of these rules and feel guilty about doing it. Ruth will say she doesn’t like something even though she hasn’t tried it…So annoying! I tell her that she has to try it before she can say she doesn’t like it and she’ll give it a quick lick. It pisses me off so much! Anyway…
She snacks a lot, too, but I make myself feel better because she snacks on fruit and veggies. But again, I wish she would just eat her meals so that she doesn’t snack! Vicious cycle.
Lastly, we can’t eat as a family and it makes me so sad/frustrated. Dinner occurs 3 or 4 times a night because of everyone’s crazy-ass schedule. H eats at 4:30pm because she goes to bed by 6. R eats at 5:30 and goes to bed by 7. I eat when R is in bed…Or, wait until DH comes home, which is anywhere between 7-8pm. I long for family meals.
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I think the snacking thing depends on culture. It’s not French culture to snack, but lots of health advocates say eating 3 meals with 1 to 2 small snacks is perfectly fine especially if they are healthy. I get hungry every 3 hours like clock work so I do snack and I will do the same for my kid, but it’s mindful snacking. I plan what I am eating, it’s healthy, and it’s done at a table not in front of the tv which is a difference. Plus they have little tummies and I don’t think can go long between eating so if it’s a planned thing (though I’m above some minor snacking in stores to help them for errands) it’s one thing, it’s just the mindless snacking that you have to be careful of. I’m a big fan of Ellen Satter (How to get your child to eat) who believes in snacking for kids for the above reasons.
blogger / pear / 1563 posts
Thanks for sharing this! I need to get better about not saying, “you can have xyz when you finish your (fill in the blank). It’s so hard to not do it when it often seems like the only thing that works! ha!
kiwi / 511 posts
My kids pretty much eat what we eat. I do make small exceptions for them not liking a specific meal (because I hated being forced to eat something that I really didn’t like) and to qualify for the exception they must give the food a good faith try before they decide they don’t like it. And then they receive butter bread only, there will be no making of another meal. I think I have only had to do this once. There has been twice that Mr.4 decided he wasn’t going to even try it (mind you it was something I knew he liked and ate before), so he had water until breakfast. (This broke my heart and it was so amazingly difficult but I stuck to my guns with the help of my DH. Between us we have more years of experience in being stubborn and counted on that experience to get us through.)
As for spicy, this is something that varies between people adults as well as kids. For Mr.4 plain BBQ sauce is “too spicy” but is ok with ketchup. Mr.2 loves BBQ, ketchup, mustard (yellow and brown spicy), and has been known to have a few Wickles. I don’t want to punish Mr.4 simply because he doesn’t like “spicy” so I no longer make my chili (which both boys will eat) spicy but I do make it flavorfull and my DH and I will add hot sauce or something on top.
Both boys eat in a similar manner to us. Breakfast (as a family), morning snack (provided by us so nothing huge), lunch (provided by us our daycare doesn’t offer lunchs which I am grateful for), afternoon snack (provided by us for the little due to food allergies, daycare provides for the older one) and then Dinner (as a family). All 4 of us in the family have a tendancy to get “hangry” so I am ok with both a morning and afternoon snack.
We haven’t used food as a bribe per se, but if there is a ton of bad behavior then they know that they will not get a popsicle or ice cream after dinner. And even if they are good, that is no guarentee that they will get one.
I try to ask them (mostly Mr. 4) for input it is generally on breakfast to keep them involved. Or for dinners I may ask them if they want A or B. Honesly food had me so amazingly stressed out, especially for Mr.2 because for the first year of his life I was at the doctor’s office for “weight checks” despite him not missing any milestones or anything and was constantly told to feed him more. Well as another poster said honeybadger isn’t going to eat. He always ate a wide variety just not a lot of volumn, even when we did take snacks away. He would just clamp his jaw shut and turn his head, he knew when he was done. So much stress was based on the doctor had they not harped on it I would have been fine with the amount he ate because he ate regularlly and wide variety of foods. I am still recovering from my doctor induced eating/feeding anxiety but I am getting better.
wonderful grape / 20453 posts
I loved this book so much when I read it
One of *my* rules is that you don’t complain. Dinner isn’t “yucky”, it isn’t “gross”, it isn’t whatever negative term you use….I think it’s incredibly rude. My LO can say she doesn’t like something, but insulting the cook (me, her grandma, anyone who’s house she’s at) isn’t OK! I want her to learn to articulate WHY she doesn’t like something. Too spicy, too mushy, too sour. Not “yucky”
grapefruit / 4671 posts
I really need to get better at implementing family meals.
blogger / coconut / 8306 posts
I didn’t know this was a French thing!
When Chloe was a year old and regularly having solids, our ped said it was time to introduce the family dinner. We did this growing up & had mostly been doing this with Chloe, but we did make a point to always eat together and without distraction.
She’s always eaten what we eat. I don’t make two different meals, and now that she’s older we let her help a bit with the meal plan– she can choose whether she wants chicken or beef tacos, or if we should make waffles or sausage. Having her be a part of choosing and preparing food with us has always made her more excited to eat… And I always tell her the food tastes sooo much better when she helps!
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
@jen! thanks i will have to check that book out! i do let the kids have fruit if it’s after nap/before dinner, but usually they refuse it so i know they’re not really hungry.
@blackbird: oh yes good one! that is a new rule i’ve implemented since they didn’t want to try most of the foods in the philippines!
apricot / 370 posts
@blackbird yes to no complaining about the food. My in-laws (parents and sister) don’t like spicy food so they used to keep telling my older one that something was spicy so it was yucky, until DH told them to stop doing that, spicy isn’t yucky, and let the kid try it and form her own opinion. I grew up in an Asian household and our parents never made separate meals for us (I don’t recall having mac and cheese until I was in high school), we ate what was cooked, we ate together, no tv during meals, and dessert was never a given. Snacking was allowed, but my parents did make my brother and I try things and eat most of what was served to us even if we didn’t necessarily like it with the age old saying of there are kids starving in _______, but we didn’t have any negativity toward food, we understood that that meal was what’s for dinner and there are kids starving somewhere else, and I am so grateful my mom cooked for us and we were able to sit down and have family meals together, and I credit my parents with allowing us to be open to a wide range of foods that we now enjoy as adults.
I am trying to do the same with my kids especially eating all together part, talk about our day, what we did, etc…my older one is quite picky and just won’t eat if she doesn’t want it, but she knows already not to ask for something else, but little by little she does seem to be opening up more to different foods, and surprisingly eats meals I didn’t think she’d like; my younger one is open to food and will eat most things on her plate, and this is even after snacking—she just likes to eat.
hostess / wonderful persimmon / 25556 posts
I want to read this book! We have been really good about implementing most of these rules because they were rules we grew up with, as well. No media at the table, eat what’s on your plate, no snacking unless it is requested. Snacking is difficult because they snack at daycare. We only give snacks when one is specifically requested, typically in the late morning when there are still a couple hours before lunch. Afternoons we try not to do any snacks when home on the weekends.
What I’ve learned, though is that all kids are different. Some hate eating. My kid is a good eater which has made our family dinners and mealtimes very easy. I could see us bending many of these “rules” if our child wasn’t the way she is.
blogger / kiwi / 675 posts
growing up we never had many snacks lying around until high school age. I learned a lot about feeding our kids from my mom she always had a variety and we always had to try everything. At the beginning I realize I was catering to G too much and letting her run the restaurant so to speak, I was making way too much food. At two, a friend of mine said with her three girls she learned to wrap it up in foil if they didn’t want to eat it at meal time and they could eat it later but it was still the same meal. Worked like a charm! G is now an awesome eater and will protest at times but does not get a new meal. With S I am introducing far more foods faster and she is eating like a champ… fingers crossed** This book seems like a great read.
blogger / apricot / 367 posts
I need to read this book! My older one has always been a great eater, I think in part to being exposed to lots of different foods during her first year in Korea. She is actually a child that loves eating vegetables. I totally agree with Rule #10 – eating should be joyful – I love that!!
apricot / 343 posts
I loved this book! My food rule is: look at the child. My husband, in particular, worries that our twins don’t always eat “enough,” whatever that is. I say, look at the child…they are in the 75th & 86th per entitles for weight, so apparently they are eating enough! Also, their stomach is the size of their fist…pretty small.
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I would love to know when people started being more strict about eating rules. We break a number of these, some because I don’t totally believe in them (I’m fine with snacking if it’s balanced/healthy and not from boredom)…some because it’s easier. But I also only have a 20 month old and I’m unsure at what point these start to become more relevant. Right now I’m more of a short order cook because I don’t want to take away her nutrition if she will actually eat something else. Not to mention I make most of her meals separately since my husband and I have insane schedules and generally grab something easy from the fridge after she’s in bed. I also don’t feel like I can reason with her about trying things she doesn’t want to eat (whether or not she’s loved them in the past) and the methods I’ve tried to convince her haven’t worked.
At what age did you other mamas feel you could start pushing these more, in particular the short order cook thing?
cherry / 110 posts
I highly recommend Ellyn Satter’s approach to food.
See http://www.ellynsatterinstitute.org/
The main idea is that the responsibility of feeding rests on both the parent AND the child. The parent is responsible for providing the food and the opportunity to eat. The child is responsible for deciding whether or not to eat at all and how much to eat.
blogger / clementine / 998 posts
desserts were certainly super special occasion for me growing up, and i don’t really remember having a recess snack usually although other kids did. how does this book compare with Bringing Up Bébé? I haven’t read either.
wonderful grape / 20453 posts
@mrs bee, gah they missed out!
@scb, I sent my 16 month old to bed without dinner last week because she refused to eat it (I made Carne asada) *shrug* girlfriend ain’t gonna starve herself. She ate a hearty breakfast the next morning, though.
@viola, I also like that concept, that the child decides how much to eat. No “clean your plate”, no cajoling extra bites, etc.
cherry / 110 posts
@blackbird: I will say that as my child grew up, we changed the rules slightly so that he wasn’t so wasteful with food. We have him decide how much food to put on his plate and then he is responsible for finishing his plate. He is allowed to put as much or as little as he wants, but he has to finish it. We implemented this rule when he turned 3.
coffee bean / 28 posts
I second the Ellyn Satter approach. I just read Child of Mine: Feeding with Love and Good Sense and it has made such a difference in my child’s eating just in the week we’ve been implementing it.
blogger / pomegranate / 3491 posts
We fail on so many on these fronts but c is still a pretty decent eater. I try not to stress too much which helps.
clementine / 994 posts
This is so timely because I was literally looking into buying this book last night in search of more ideas to help my little finicky eater. Turns out we do most of these tips already. After having my daughter, I’m a firm believer that picky eaters are born, not made. DD was a wonderful eater until one day she just wasn’t. She started pushing away her plate or refusing foods we knew she loved. I’ve been trying not to stress too much about it and just keep offering her variety hoping she’ll eventually come around. I’m told I was the same way, so maybe it’s just karma.
persimmon / 1095 posts
I was a very picky eater growing up, and still am but have gotten much better. Although my mom didn’t make me other meals if I didn’t like what was for dinner, I did have the option of making a pbj sammy or a bowl of cereal to have for dinner instead. Whenever I smelled the tuna noodle casserole baking I knew I’d be having Cheerios instead!
apricot / 370 posts
@SCB your situation seems challenging since you and your husband and yourself have insane schedules and eats separately. But I do think that as young as the LOs can start eating our food (12-15 months for us), that they can eat what we eat, without having to cook separate meals. Yes, it’s hard to reason with a 20 month old about eating something because it’s good and nutritious for her, but you just keep at it, explaining the routine, and she’ll figure out that what you are serving for dinner is what’s for dinner. I have a 4YO and a 20 month old, and they both understand I’m not cooking separate meals for them, yes even the 20 month old seems to get it. My 20 month old is pretty open to food and I’ve been fortunate with her, she pretty much eats what’s on her plate. My 4YO is pickier and there have been nights where she’s gone to bed hungry, but like @blackbird said, she’ll eat a big breakfast the next morning. They’re good at self regulating over all.
apricot / 370 posts
@SCB your situation seems challenging since you and your husband have insane schedules and eats separately. But I do think that as young as the LOs can start eating our food (12-15 months for us), that they can eat what we eat, without having to cook separate meals. Yes, it’s hard to reason with a 20 month old about eating something because it’s good and nutritious for her, but you just keep at it, explaining the routine, and she’ll figure out that what you are serving for dinner is what’s for dinner. I have a 4YO and a 20 month old, and they both understand I’m not cooking separate meals for them, yes even the 20 month old seems to get it. My 20 month old is pretty open to food and I’ve been fortunate with her, she pretty much eats what’s on her plate. My 4YO is pickier and there have been nights where she’s gone to bed hungry, but like @blackbird said, she’ll eat a big breakfast the next morning. They’re good at self regulating over all.
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I was commenting on this topic yesterday on a different board (a recipe board where someone was posting how she makes a different meal for her and for her husband every night). I like a poster’s suggestion of making sure to say that food isn’t yucky, but that there are reasons why something isn’t liked. We give LO snacks (she gets an am and pm snack at daycare) in part to keep her on that schedule and in part because she’s very slow to gain weight. If she doesn’t eat what we eat at dinner, I’ll offer her pb and toast (she’s 18 months). We do offer her milk before bed (although not every night). I will say though that LO is a very good eater and for the most part will eat what we offer. I think she’s not quite old enough, though getting there, to be going for the ‘one bite to be polite’ rule, which is how I grew up.
pomelo / 5866 posts
If LO doesn’t want the food, she has to give it a taste and say I had enough or “No, thank you” if offered more.
Nothing is allowed to be called yucky if other people eat it. Just “not for me. ”
I make sure snacks are not within 2 hours of dinner. If I am making something LO usually doesn’t eat, I do short order alternate healthy food she likes.. She is on the lower weight side so I make sure to provide her with nutritious food she likes to make dinner time pleasant and healthy.