A few years ago, my husband and I were at a wedding. The wedding photographer came up to us about halfway through the party and said, “if I didn’t know any better, I’d think you two were the newlyweds.” It was such an amazing compliment, and something I relished. There we were, together for a decade, married for a few years at that point, and we were still acting like newlyweds.
I found myself reliving that memory recently as I was laying in bed after a nasty argument with my husband, wondering if we have finally reached our breaking point. Shortly after that wedding a few years ago, we decided to have kids. We had a hard time conceiving, and for a while, I thought that the TTC process might break us. I wanted to deal with the TTC issues proactively, and my husband didn’t. The subject was embarrassing to him, the effort to figure out what was wrong was big, and he preferred to avoid it and just hope for the best. I don’t begrudge him his reasoning, and understood his avoidance, but I felt left out. After nearly two years of trying, I was actively going to therapy and coming to a point of acceptance that having kids was just not meant to be. Of course, we got pregnant just as I was preparing for my new kid-free reality.
Hindsight is a powerful thing, and as I look back at it now, I probably should have known that the differences I always thought attracted us to each other were going to escalate into problems. My desire to tackle conflict head on and his desire to avoid it at all costs. My need for someone to relax my controlling, over-planning tendencies and his inability to push back at me when I started behaving badly. When our child was born, the reality of new motherhood hit me incredibly hard. I felt awfully isolated and completely lost on what to do with this new little person. My husband stood back and got out of my way, despite my need for someone to step in and take over every so often, and my inherent trouble with asking for help only made things that much worse.
When the first year of parenting drew to a close and the fog began to lift, the cracks in our marriage began to show. We both work outside the home full time, and after a full work day and then an evening with our kid, we had spent virtually no time together as a couple. I needed to go to bed early in order to get enough sleep to function, and he was a night owl. Despite being an incredible romantic, he completely bypassed my birthday and our anniversary, claiming that he didn’t think I’d want to go out because I was so tired at the end of the day. It came from a good place, but the lack of effort hurt. We disagreed about parenting approaches – I relied a lot on books and online communities to figure out what to expect, and he openly scorned my attempts at learning, claiming that my gut instinct should be enough. He slept soundly every night, and I woke up repeatedly to make sure our kid was OK. We didn’t have many interests in common to begin with (something I always viewed as an asset that gave us great opportunities to explore different things), but we began to drift even further apart as my capacity for what I wanted to read/hear/learn reduced proportionally to the brain space I had left after work, child and a little bit for myself.
I read somewhere that you shouldn’t make any major decisions in the first two years of a child’s life, so I tried to write off our disconnect and continue trying to figure out what was broken and how to fix it. After many years of trying (going back to our troublesome TTC days) to get him to go to couples therapy with me, he finally agreed. We saw someone once a week for 8 months, and we got a lot out of it. We seemed to talk a bit better. Our biggest takeaway, however, was that we had incredibly big differences – outright polarizing ones, in fact – in how we dealt with emotional challenges. I think and process and analyze everything, and try to find all the rights, wrongs and viewpoints in between. I try to relate. My husband isn’t able to relate or understand my feelings, or even his own, for the most part. His ability to put himself in my shoes or anyone else’s just doesn’t exist, and therefore my upsets and frustrations simply become noise to him and he withdraws. He doesn’t spend time thinking about his own behaviors. Because he’s not prone to get angry or even argue, it’s easy to make me the bad guy, simply because I’m louder. He doesn’t talk about what he’s thinking or feeling, claiming there’s just nothing to talk about. In his mind, he’s simply reacting to my actions – well, when I’m well, and badly when I’m imperfect.
I realize that I write this that it sounds like I’m blaming him, and that’s not the intent at all. We are both at fault for what’s gone wrong between us. I have a terrible temper, I get angry easily, I obsess and control and talk too much. My frustrations, especially in the TTC struggle and early on in parenthood, had caused me to lash out rather than address problems constructively, and that lashing out caused him to avoid conflict even more than he’s already prone to do. And after years of building up this awful dynamic of me getting angry, him withdrawing, me getting even angrier and so on, the wedge between us has been growing larger.
The hard thing about all this is that there are no easy causes to pull the divorce trigger around. My husband is an amazing human being. He’s boundlessly generous, an incredible father, and even a great husband. We don’t really argue (though I often think that if we did, things would actually be better because at least I’d know what he’s feeling and thinking). He’s an incredible partner who supports me in every way – except one. Over these past few years, I’ve realized that he can’t provide me the emotional support I need when I become imperfect. Perhaps I’m asking for too much, but oftentimes it feels like he only wants to be with me when I’m my best self. Every other time he’d rather just get out of my way and let me figure it out. Which I do, a lot, but it’s become incredibly lonely to go at it myself all the time, especially now that there’s a little person whose emotions also need to be managed.
I’ve asked myself repeatedly whether we would still be together if it weren’t for our child. The fact that I can’t answer yes definitively is telling, but so is the fact that it’s not a definitive no either. I keep hoping. I keep thinking that maybe I can find a way to fix this. Our therapist “fired” us (kind of) – her conclusion after 8 months was that my husband just simply isn’t wired to give me what I’m looking for in emotional support. It doesn’t make him a bad person, it just is. The question is where I can live with it and fall in love with my husband again, after years of bad feelings between us. That’s where I’m currently stuck.
I don’t want us to stay together for our kid’s sake. I know enough children of divorces to have heard the advice repeatedly – do NOT stay together for the sake of your kid. I know happy parents, even if they’re no longer together, is going to be better for our kid. But my heart breaks every time I think of two homes, two beds, two separate lives that our kid would have to lead. I worry that if I don’t make a decision soon (and it’s my decision to make, he’s never going to pull this trigger), my husband and I will only grow to resent each other more and more and not even manage to stay friends if we part. I think that maybe we should just part ways while we’re still somewhat friendly. But it’s also what makes me keep hoping that maybe we can fix this.
blogger / nectarine / 2600 posts
Oh my goodness hugs what an open raw and honest look at a very heavy emotional topic. I dont have advice but applaud your candor and vulnerability on such a personal heartfelt matter
GOLD / papaya / 10166 posts
Thank you for being so open and honest. I will agree that a child can make existing marital issues even worse. The best thing we did was go on a date night every 2 weeks… even when we didn’t feel like it. We were able to work through so many things and get back to “us”. Hugs
wonderful kiwi / 23653 posts
Hugs! Thank you for sharing. This must be so hard to write.
I am no expert, but I think if both of you want to stay in the marriage, then it’s more about working better on your communication? I feel like the therapist exhausted one angle and therefore said nothing to be done… But if the will is there, then it’s a matter of figuring out what you need to change about communicating to each other so it stops the cycle from repeating. You are still who you are, but you are now conscious of your difference and slowly creating new habits to communicate? But of course, there has to be two willing hearts, otherwise it will be hard to put in the effort!
I am so sorry and I hope that you will be able to reach to a conclusion that will make you happy in the end!
pomegranate / 3225 posts
Thank you thank you thank you! I think as mothers we just don’t talk about our marriages. And that doesn’t mean that they aren’t suffering. We need to be more Honest!
pear / 1998 posts
Does he want a divorce? I know you mentioned that you will have to make the decision, but have you actually talked through it with him and asked him? From what you’ve written, I don’t think it is possible for you to live a happy life without that emotional support you mentioned. That is a huge piece of the puzzle. Either he makes an effort and you move forward as a couple, or he doesn’t and that results in divorce. I’m so sorry you and your family have to deal with this.
blogger / pomegranate / 3044 posts
Thank you for being so open and honest. I wish I had advice, but all I can do is hope you find a good solution.
FWIW, My parents and three older siblings are all on their 2nd marriages (my parents to each other) and everyone is better off for it!
kiwi / 558 posts
Thank you for this amazing post. This is so honest and especially the first two years with a child are very hard. I have same but different type of trouble marriage, but we are just starting therapy now and so far it’s been actually progressing! Its definitely a slow process, but I’m glad we finally took the step to understand each other.
Looking at divorce is always scary. You have to do what works for you. All the best and thank you again for the post.
blogger / kiwi / 626 posts
This is an amazing post. I divorced my first husband almost 8 years ago and it was one of the hardest decisions I have ever made. It was so incredibly freeing to finally decide that I was done and to actually say the word “divorce”. I wish you the best of luck with this and I know that based on what you’ve written above, you have thought it through enough to make a really well informed and intelligent decision.
grapefruit / 4731 posts
Thanks for sharing such an honest post.
I’m a little surprised your therapist wasn’t that helpful. Would you consider going to another therapist?
They say therapists are like doctors you have to find the right one that fits your needs. Usually therapist helps with giving you tools to help work through your issues. Maybe you didn’t mention it and you tried the tools and it still didn’t help?
I wish you the best!
hostess / cantaloupe / 6486 posts
My DH and I have the exact same personality differences as you do. We haven’t been together as long as you have but we are struggling to find ways to relate and I often feel like he offers absolutely no emtional support and it makes me feel incredibly alone. Big hugs to you!
nectarine / 2028 posts
I’m so sorry you’ve had such a hard time. The older I get, the more I think that opposites might attract…but, like you said, that doesn’t mean they can stick together. I agree with a previous poster that said you should try another therapist-I cannot believe yours fired you! Life is too short to live with regret, so I’m hopeful for you that you can come to a place where, no matter what you decide, you can begin to enjoy your life fully again. Much love headed your way.
GOLD / wonderful pomegranate / 28905 posts
Thank you so much for sharing. The first year of a baby’s life is, in my opinion, the hardest challenge of a marriage. DH and I had been together for 12 years when our first came along. We had a super fussy, clingy, high needs colicky baby with NO family nearby for help or date nights. I won’t say that first year was the hardest thing our marriage endured but it was definitely the most trying on our marriage. You have to make time and reach within both of you to find and rekindle that spark that was there pre kids. Before kids it was easy to find ad achieve. With kids it now takes work and effort! Best of luck to you!
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pear / 1770 posts
This is such a personal and compelling post – thank you for sharing, and I hope you’re able to find happiness and peace of mind.
apricot / 490 posts
If you get closer to seeking a divorce, I suggest you speak to at least three divorced moms with young children. I would have never known what the reality would be like except for the real life examples in life of moms who have gotten divorced with children under 5.
pomegranate / 3032 posts
Thanks for sharing and hugs to you for laying it all out there.
A lot of what you said really resonated with me, as there is a similar dynamic in my marriage. One thing that got me thinking and I know its just one piece of a very complex puzzle but what if it was ok that your husband didn’t fill all your “buckets.” I know for us that hubs just doesnt want to over analyze and hash out every detail of a situation but I NEED to. So in order to fill that need i turn to another source (mainly my mom and she will sit with me for hours) while I dissect every minutia of an issue. Once I have a clearer picture of what I want/need then I go back to hubs with 1-2 options. Just one example.
Regardless, I applaud your bravery for opening up the conversation.
wonderful olive / 19353 posts
First of all, major hugs to you!! Thank you for sharing this post with us as I’m sure some or all of it resonates with us. While I’m secretly hoping and cheering things will work themselves out for you and your husband, I understand only you will ultimately know. Regardless of your decision, I wish you nothing but the best and happiness. Good luck!!
cherry / 204 posts
I’m so sorry that you’re going through this. Feeling alone emotionally and like you’re only in a relationship when you’re your best self sounds so lonely. Being alone isn’t the worst, I think feeling lonely when you’re with someone who you love is worse.
It sounds like you’re in charge of driving your relationship, but without your husband’s buy in for where it’s going. That must be frustrating and compound the loneliness too.
Whatever you decide to do, take care of yourself. You don’t have to be perfect to deserve to take care of yourself and your needs.
persimmon / 1096 posts
I’m so, so sorry you’re finding yourself in this place – and bravo for sharing these feelings, which I think a majority of couples feel at one point or another in their marriages. Marriage really is hard, hard work. Not all the time, maybe not even most of the time for some couples, but every marriage hits rough spots at one point or another. It’s all about weighing your history together, what’s caused the trouble, whether or not you can fix it in a satisfactory way, and what you think your future holds.
All of the positive things you said about your husband toward the end make me hopeful that you can work things out. Have you considered trying another therapist together, or seeing one on your own? Do you have another person who can offer you that emotional support you need? (Mine is sometimes my mom, if my husband doesn’t understand whatever feelings I’m dealing with – because that happens). I’m 100% not saying any of this is “your fault,” it’s not. But I’m wondering if there are alternatives to help you feel happier without him changing the way he is wired, which sounds unlikely.
No one knows all the ins and outs of a relationship outside of the two people in it, so only you will know if you can be happy with him (and with other support, perhaps) or if you are willing to go through the process of divorce and the more complicated logistics that you mentioned (houses, holidays, etc) for a chance to start fresh and maybe find someone who is a better fit for you.
Either way, I wish you peace
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Thank you for sharing.
I want to add another voice urging you to consider trying a different therapist. What you say about not being able to understand his own feelings and definitely not being able to relate to yours … I do not think this is a value neutral personality difference. I think most therapists would argue that it’s a serious disfunction, not all that uncommon in men but something the men in question will find a big problem for them in their lives whether divorced or not.
I would also urge the two of you to try to reignite the romance by spending some time dating, just the two of you. Yes it’s a cliche but that doesn’t mean it’s not helpful.
But in the end, if you have to let it go, I wish you all the very best and you have all my sympathy.
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I’m a former HB blogger who has been taking some space away from social media/blogging in order to be more intentional with my life. That being said, I still read Hellobee a lot, and this post touched me, because I can relate SO MUCH. I recently read an amazing book called “The Dance of Anger” that has totally reordered my relationships. I have been giving copies to friends and have even considered trying to guest post here because the book had such an impact on me. It is all about how to change the cycles (or “dances”) in relationships. The pursuer/distancer dance is so common (it is certainly the number one issue in my marriage). Although it will be a lifelong issue for me, I’m learning to break this cycle and have had some satisfying results in my marriage and in other relationships. I’ve read about pursuer/distancer cycle before, and have even gone to therapy, but this book laid it out in a way that just made sense to me. The one thing I try to remind myself when times get rough is that my husband’s distancing is a learned response to anxiety, and not a personal attack. That the distance he puts between us is his bizarre attempt to fix the problem (wrongheaded as that is), because doing the work to solve it just feels too risky or difficult for him. I think it has to do with his family background/gender roles (just as my pursuer behavior has to do with this as well). I can’t help but suggest it to everyone I know. Also when my marriage was at its lowest point, the book “Uncoupling” helped me to determine how far gone we were, and whether or not our marriage could be restored. Good luck and I hope for the best no matter what decision you make!
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BTW, didn’t want to give the impression that all blogging runs contrary to living intentionally, just that for me I needed the space away from the virtual world because I wasn’t able to handle it as well as I ought.
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Prayers for you! This is such an incredibly difficult thing. Pray, pray, pray and look to The Lord for your emotional support. We all to often look to human relationships to fill needs only God can.
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Thank you.
just. thank you.
I applaud and appreciate the honesty in which you write.. I am a child of divorce and still am a champion of don’t stay together for the kids and truly believe that separate parents can be happy and healthy and raise amazing human beings.
But no matter what…. it is not an easy decision and I don’t envy you one bit. I love my husband so much. The good days are great and the bad days are bearable because we are together. But at the same time…. my husband is like your husband, he is incapable of putting himself in another’s shoes… empathy is a foreign concept to him. and it’s hard because I am pretty much on the opposite side of things and at what point do you say.. our differences are good and balance each other and at what point are they too much to overcome?
I have no good advice for you but I am SOOOOO very thankful to you for sharing your story because it makes me feel less alone. Bottom line as you said is basically, what are you willing to put up with? It’t not a failure on either sides part, as the therapist said, it is fundamental. So you either get to decide you can live without what he can provide or you want more. And wanting more is not a bad thing. It’s nothing to feel bad about.
Thank you.
Marriage is not sunshine, roses and fairy tales. It is hard and it is work. You can not get out of it what you do not put into it.
coffee bean / 46 posts
I would suggest you see a therapist that is trained by the Gottman Institute. I think they can help you bridge the differences between your DH and you. He can learn specific techniques (how to deal with your ‘bids’) that can help you feel emotionally close to him.
Good Luck!
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@BABYBOECKSMOM I think this is something we need to do as well. We’ve been terrible at spending time together since kiddo was born but we need to get our act together and get a babysitter already.
@TEMPERANCEBRENNAN He doesn’t want a divorce, even more so than I don’t. But I do think certain things are just not within his power to change. From what I’ve seen, I just don’t think he knows how to, no matter how much he may want to, that’s really the rough of it.
@RAINDROP, @CHIGALGOBEE we definitely would consider going to someone else, but our therapist’s assessment did feel right to me, just knowing what I know about myself and my husband. We had to pause therapy for a few reasons, so she didn’t fire us per say, but when we discussed more therapy, she assessed that it’s likely going to benefit me more to come alone for the reasons I described. I’m going to make an effort at solo therapy to see if I can get myself to a more definitive place, but the door for more counseling for us both is definitely open.
@MRS. SUNSHINE Lots of love to you, I hope you guys work through it!
@REGBERADAISY You are very right. We have definitely not made our marriage a priority, and I think that’s been a big thing for getting us to where we currently are. One of the things I’m hoping to make a priority is finally finding a babysitter and seeing if more time together helps us find a way back to each other.
@TEAWITHPALOMA thank you for that advice, I definitely would want to talk to divorced moms, especially with young kids. The whole idea is terrifying, to be honest.
@CHILLYBEAR @KEEPCALMCARRIE you are both spot on, and one of the things I’m hoping to do with some solo therapy is to figure out if I can have that emotional need met that he can’t meet for me in some other way. Unfortunately my circle of friends and family aren’t quite the right people to fill the gap I have (not in bad ways, just circumstances, mostly) but I’m hoping to find a way to do this for myself in some way.
@MRS. SKETCHBOOK thank you so much for the recommendations. I definitely look to books and whatever resources I can to gain insight, so I’ll check those out.
@SHEA thank you
I hope things work out for you as well.
Thank you all for the wonderful comments! I didn’t get a chance to read this since it posted and was really touched by everyone’s support.
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Thanks for sharing your feelings with us. I really don’t think you should get a divorce just yet without trying harder. From what you are saying, I think he still wants to work it out with you, but he doesn’t know how either. As I am reading your story, it sounded like your behavior from all the stress and anxiety from motherhood is causing him to stay away. Have you thought about that he’s a new parent as well and he has his own stress and anxiety? Some men are just not good at expressing their feelings but it doesn’t mean that he does not care. If you want him to help you with the child just ask, because there is a chance that he wants to but just doesn’t know how. If he doesn’t help even if you ask him (nicely) then there he has a problem. Fathers mostly sleep soundly at night, it’s part of their biological system, while mothers (who’s brain are literally wired differently) worry more for their children. It doesn’t mean he’s a bad father. While relying on books to learn about parenting is useful but there are indeed a lot of contradicting theories out there. Every kid and family is different so one size doesn’t fit all. That maybe why he rejects your idea of relying on books completely. When you mention the lack of effort on holidays and anniversaries, there could be a reason why. You guys are going through PARENTHOOD!! It is stressful and if you guys are in constant tired and in a bad mood, who has the time and energy to plan for special events? If you really want to celebrate, why can’t you plan something? Remember marriage is a union of two people, both sides need to contribute. You mentioned that you have bad temper, so maybe you should work on controlling your temper. Bad temper will only make men go away. Even if you start anew, the same behavior will drive other men away. If you were in his shoes, wouldn’t you rather be with a happier partner? If he has a bad temper and takes it out on you, how would you feel? If you want him to support you emotionally, you need to do the same for him. If you really want your marriage to work out, ask yourself, do you still love him? does he still love you? If both yes, then you shouldn’t get a divorce. I really don’t see any REAL problem here except the expectation and the communication is totally off, which is very common among couples with new born. I am in the same situation. I have bad temper too and my husband points it out to me and told me that he won’t stand me if I continue to act that way. I put myself in his shoes and I realize how he doesn’t deserve this, no one does. Don’t always try to fix him!! Fix yourself too!!! If you are stressed out have him watch the kid and you go for a pedicure! Lower your expectation from him, plan out those date nights, try a new restaurant together! Maybe when the mood is right, he will share his feelings (it’s not easy for guys) and hopefully you guys will rekindle your love in no time. Good luck!!! It’s really not better on the divorced and single side. Cherish what you have right now!!
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http://www.hellobee.com/2012/03/23/the-divorce-remedy-aka-marriage-is-hard/
This is a good post.