I’ve received some questions about how the deliveries of our babies will work logistically, with the baby I’m carrying due five weeks before the baby that our surrogate is carrying, and our surrogate living four states away from us. These are great questions, but ones that I must admit that Mr. Starfish and I don’t yet have all of the answers to! We have started mapping out a tentative plan for traveling from our home in Chicago to Utah to be there for the second baby’s birth, but we have deliberately kept the plan pretty open and loose. The reason for this is that there is so much for which we cannot plan, the most obvious being that we cannot possibly know in advance if the babies will arrive on their respective due dates. We feel it is best to avoid thinking about details, and instead plan broadly.
I will first start by saying that both me and Mr. Starfish feel extremely strongly that we both want to be at both births. This may seem obvious, but we frequently get questions or comments where people assume that I will stay back in Chicago with one baby while Mr. Starfish goes to Utah to pick up the other baby. I could not possibly let this happen; I just can’t stand the thought of staying behind and missing such an important event for one of our daughters.
Among the other things we considered and have decided:
When to travel to Utah?
The babies are due exactly 5 weeks apart, with my due date coming first. In deciding when to travel to Utah, we have considered things like the amount of recovery time I will need from delivery, when it is safe for the first baby to travel a long distance, and the odds of our surrogate delivering early.
We settled on traveling to Utah about three and a half weeks after my due date. This will be about one and a half weeks before the surrogate’s due date. We think there is a chance that I may deliver late (both my husband and I were late babies, and this is my first pregnancy), and we think there is also a chance that our surrogate will deliver early (she has had three pregnancies, and she delivered two of them at 39 weeks and one of them at 40 weeks).
How to travel to Utah?
We considered three modes of transportation to get to and from Utah: by car (over 20 hours), by plane (approximately 3 hours flight time), or by train (not sure, this idea was Mr. Starfish’s and I immediately discounted it!).
We settled on flying. For a few weeks, I really felt it was the wrong decision and that we should instead drive. But I was eventually convinced by a couple of points: 1) our agency advised us that most intended parents who must travel to pick up their babies do so via flights, and 2) the thought of a 20 hour car trip with two newborns on their own feeding schedules is pretty daunting and could mean that a 20 hour car trip could easily be extended by 2-3 times.
Where to stay in Utah?
We considered a few options here as well, including renting a house or apartment, or staying at a regular hotel or an extended-stay hotel. We ended up deciding to book a timeshare for three weeks. We got a pretty good deal because Mr. Starfish’s mother has a timeshare membership that we were able to leverage.
We liked this option because the room is a suite with a separate bedroom/living space, has a kitchen, and has on-site laundry. The drawback is that the hotel/timeshare is located in Park City, Utah, which is quite a distance from our surrogate’s delivery hospital (45 minutes). In the end, we decided this was a trade-off worth making.
Who to bring to Utah?
There is no way we could do our trip to Utah without help. For starters, the hospital will not allow anyone under 16 years old into the delivery room. So in order for both me and Mr. Starfish to be there for the delivery, we at least need someone to watch the other baby during the labor. In addition to that, we think it is pretty likely that we will be overwhelmed by everything while we’re in Utah. So we will be asking Mr. Starfish’s mom to travel with us and stay with us for most of our time in Utah. We also have some close family members who live closer to Utah than to Chicago, so we are expecting some visitors while we’re in Utah as well.
What to bring to Utah?
Now here is where we have gotten a little stuck. When we flew out to Utah for our surrogate’s 20-week ultrasound, we brought the car seat for the second baby with us. So we do have a way to get our second baby transported from the hospital. But that’s about all we have figured out! We still need to figure out how much, and what type, of gear to bring along for our 3-week stay in Utah. We need to talk with the timeshare/hotel because perhaps they have cribs available, but should we trust those cribs or figure out another solution? In the end, Mr. Starfish and I will have to find our way through the airport with two babies, all of their gear, and three weeks worth of our own travel necessities, and we’re struggling with how much to bring and how much to leave behind…
When to leave Utah?
Just like the decision on when to travel to Utah is difficult because we don’t know with certainty when the babies will arrive, so is the decision on when to travel home to Chicago. On the one hand, we don’t want to rush ourselves out of Utah while trying to juggle two newborns. On the other hand, we think we will be anxious to get our babies home to Chicago and into familiar territory with all of the comforts of home. We are tentatively planning on returning home to Chicago about a week and a half after the second baby’s due date (but remember that we think the odds are high that our surrogate will deliver early). This may seem quick, but we actually were originally thinking that we would leave only 5-6 days after the second baby’s birth, having been told by our agency that this is what most intended parents do.
Like I said before, we are still working out many details and issues as we try to plan our little girls’ arrivals into this world. So many questions are keeping me up at night. Do we book seats for them on the flights or keep them in our laps? If we do book seats, when can we do that (they don’t have names yet!)? Should we try to bring car seats on to the plane? Will they get sick being so young on a flight surrounded by so many strangers and germs? How will we handle two newborns on a flight for over three hours? Questions, questions, questions! And I haven’t even gotten in to the details of the actual surrogate baby birth, and what that looks like at the hospital. Let me save that for another post, and in the meantime, I’ll take any and all thoughts, advice and tips that you all may have for me!
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So much to plan! I would definitely recommend booking their own plane seats: you will want that extra space even if they don’t stay in their seats (plus it is MUCH safer). It will make diaper changes easier, and in the likely event they fall asleep in their seats, it will free you up to move about the cabin (since you’ll still be sore from your delivery). And this will also enable you to use the bathroom without bringing a baby. Good luck–I love reading your story!
grape / 85 posts
Wow, that’s a lot of logistics, but you sound well prepared!
One thought might be to travel light on your way to Utah, buy things as you need them there, and plan to mail or FedEx a lot of things home just before you leave so you don’t have to deal with them at the airport.
pomegranate / 3244 posts
How exciting! I grew up in Park City and am still there most weekends so if you need any advice feel free to wall me!
nectarine / 2987 posts
If you and your husband and your MIL all have seats, I think two lap babies will be fine. I would take one pack n play. Two babies that young can share one! They aren’t mobile and they’re often swaddled, so two babies can sleep in a pack n play turned sideways and still have their own little space bubble.
persimmon / 1165 posts
For the flight home, I would recommend purchasing a double snap ‘n go stroller frame in Utah to use bringing the babies home. This way, it’s super lightweight when you have to fold up and gatecheck, and they can stay in their carseats thru the airport — one less thing to travel with and lug around since the carseats snap in and out of the stroller frame.
grapefruit / 4187 posts
I was also going to suggest mailing gear back instead of lugging it around! And you can maybe even order travel cribs or rock n plays directly to the time share ahead of time instead of transporting on the plane. This way you just travel with a suitcase, 2 car seats, 2 ergo’ sand a diaper bag!
nectarine / 2288 posts
Just a heads up you can only have one lap child per row as there are only 4 oxygen masks per 3 seats. And I would call the airline directly to book seats. I’m sure they have a way for you to lock in rates prior to having the wee ones names.
So exciting reading your story!
wonderful clementine / 24134 posts
Have you looked into baby rental gear? I think in larger cities there are companies that will deliver things like strollers, cribs, bouncers, high chairs etc. Not that you need all that but you never know.
Another option would be maybe seeing if you could make a swing by a baby consignment store out there (Once Upon a Child). I would think you could get a few things for a great discount and maybe donate or resell when you leave.
grapefruit / 4717 posts
Wow, so much to think about. Sounds like you’re doing a great job thinking through everything.
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
@T.H.O.U.: I have been looking at gear rental places and in almost every case it’s been cheaper or almost as cheap to just buy the item new if it’s longer than a week! At that rate I would rather buy new and donate.
I know bluestripebee flew with 2 infants and posted a lot about it!
clementine / 918 posts
We were just at a timeshare and had both a large wooden crib and a basic pack-and-play for us to use in the room ready when we got there.
I would practice baby-wearing with LO1 right after birth because it will be much easier if you can at least wear one of them. Got any friends with infants that would let you practice wrapping and wearing?
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Yes! I would definitely book seats for the girls and bring their carseats on. You can use snap and go strollers (or a double) and gate check that. Gate checking carseats is not recommended since you don’t know that they aren’t bumped around and could be unsafe. Plus then each girl can sleep nice and cozy in her car seat on the plane and you both can have a little break if and when they fall asleep. Additionally, it is significantly safer to have kids on the plane in their carseats. If the plane crashes, we are all in trouble… and a car seat likely won’t matter. But in severe turbulence there is almost no way to guarantee you can hold onto a tiny, vulnerable newborn and they could be thrown around the plane. The AAP and the NTSB recommend children fly in carseats- the airlines only allow lap children so as not to lose sales.
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Ship all of your belongings to the timeshare (clothing and everything you’ll need for the week) and then ship it all home when you leave. Then you can only bring the babies and diaper bags on the plane!
kiwi / 656 posts
I’d say go for lap seats for both girls but you and DH prebook aisle seats. That is an absolute must when dh and I travel with our lo.
I also just wanted to reassure you that newborn babies need so little, if you learn to carry your babies in a wrap then you can have free hands and they will only probably wake for a feed, newborn babies really just sleep non stop especially if they are in a wrap on your body, I don’t think my son noticed he was even born for a few weeks. Haha.
Best of luck, I love your story. I hardly come on hellobee anymore (life of a mother of a toddler!) but I’ve made it a must since I read your first post. I’m sure lots of people feel the same about you, your story is wonderful and heartwarming that you finally will get your happy ending.
I wanted to ask, have you felt your baby move yet? I’m not sure how many weeks you are but I imagine if you do or when you do feel it, it will be amazing.
cantaloupe / 6669 posts
This is so exciting! Lots to figure out but you sound like you have a good plan!
At your mention of feeding scheduled, I wondered if you will try to breastfeed both babies? That’s probably another post!
pea / 8 posts
I moved from Madrid to Boston (via Dublin) when my baby was 7 weeks old. It was hard and I had my mom and husband traveling with me. Definitely baby wear if you can, and find the easiest-to-fold stroller! I found that the extra seat wasn’t really necessary as my baby was so little, she nursed and slept in my arms the whole way. Some airplanes actually have bassinets onboard, so call ahead and see if you can get a seat with bassinet (usually it’s on a first come, first serve at check-in, but you may get lucky). Good luck!!
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Someone above commented that there can only be one lap child per row. I have also learned that you can only have a car seat child in a window seat. I agree with shipping stuff to/from instead of schlepping it all. Resort towns usually have grocery delivery too- you may want to make a list of what you think you’ll want ahead of time so it’s one less thing to think of later. I also want to say that airline travel with an infant (or two) is not as bad as you THINK it will be. Airline/airport employees are generally helpful, and passengers are usually sympathetic (I know there are horror stories but it honestly has always been better than I think it will be). Newborns CAN share a pack n play, or the rock n play sleeper is also very small and lightweight. Agree w double snap n go stroller for airport travel. Above all- just like childbirth is only one day, the air travel with newborns will be only one day. Try not to allot TOO much mental space and stress to it. You will make it through
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Definitely consider baby wearing like some of the other commenters mentioned. A wrap could be your best friend, especially while traveling!
pomegranate / 3643 posts
I have a question. I’m guessing as soon as you take that first flight you are going to start hearing the question, “aww. Twins?” Are you just going to say yes? To strangers, I’m assuming so? Just popped in my head!
pea / 18 posts
I say try to book one extra plane seat and plan to put a car seat there–that would allow you and your partner to take turns holding babies so you each get a break.
cherry / 226 posts
This is an interesting story. Just curious, maybe you mentioned this before in a previous post and I missed it…why doesn’t surrogate give birth in Chicago? Then no newborn babies need to fly on the airplane.
GOLD / apricot / 341 posts
So many great tips in the comments! Your story is so fascinating and I’m so excited to hear more. And although I haven’t traveled with a newborn, I do have three kids within three years of eachother and we have traveled relatively extensively since our first was 3 months old. And I have to say the younger they are, the easier it is (at least until they get to be four or five and it heta easy again). A newborn is kept so close to you, they’re not touching everything, they sleep all the time, their meals are always warm and ready to go etc. And they don’t really need that much stuff. So don’t let it psych you out to much. Three hours will fly by and it will most likely go really well! Good luck!
grapefruit / 4418 posts
so many logistics to plan, but I think keeping a flexible plan and open mind like you are is going to be key. I think baby wearing for the flight is your best bet , so i would pick up two months wraps or similar! I’d probably book 3 seats so you can all sit together. I don’t know if I’d bother with any car seats on the plane itself, id probably gate check them with a snap n go type stroller, so you have extra space to lug your stuff around the airport. For sleeping, my first inclination would be a pack n play with the two nappers on top, since it seems the most compact thing to take. You may want to see if there are any local mom groups in the area who would let you borrow some gear instead, too?
grapefruit / 4321 posts
You don’t have to show ID for children if they have their own seats so you could literally just make up names. With Southwest you actually DO have to show a birth cert for lap infants.
grapefruit / 4321 posts
Random thought: could you fly your surrogate to Chicago at like 36 weeks and get her a short term rental and have her deliver in Chicago? Then you have the comforts of home, everything you need for the babies, and you don’t have to put two unvaccinated babies through plane travel
cherry / 160 posts
I would just plan on you and your husband wearing the babies through the airport and on the plane. If you are wearing a baby people don’t usually try to touch them which reduces germ exposure. Our newborn def didn’t sleep in a crib – I don’t think many do. I would see if you could instead get a swing or bassinet (the fisher price rock n play worked well for my baby). you’ll mostly just need lots of diapers and some zip up sleepers
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Order a cheap gear via Amazon prime and donate it after so you don’t have to lug it around! The Amazon warehouse has great deals! Also look into a snugglenest- all of my babies slept in one until they could roll over. They’re great for travel.
pear / 1696 posts
Agree with @catomd00!
pomelo / 5628 posts
One additional suggestion, reach out to a mom’s group or buy nothing group in Park City. I bet many people would let you borrow stuff for 3 weeks. And you don’t need cribs…I would think two rock n plays would be ideal, much less space…can move them to any room.
pea / 12 posts
Quick note about air masks: I was able to have 2 lap kids in the same row on a Delta flight last year (1 y.o and an infant). The flight attendant just advised the people in the row behind us to push one of their air masks forward to our row if the masks drop (they tubing is long enough to reach per the attendant) – keep in mind that for this particular plane, each set of 2 seats had 3 masks that would drop down. This will depend on what type of plane you’re on for the flight home and how cooperative the flight attendants are for that flight.
Also – I adopted my first kid at 4 days old. Since we flew out of state to get him, we just used the hotel’s crib. I highly recommend this as bringing a pack ‘n’ play is just one more thing to have to worry about.
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It’ll be hard but it will all work out ok!! Agree with others that we stressed a lot about first flights but it wasn’t so bad. Figure out a way to get someone else to fly back to Chicago with you, someone to pick you up, reduce the amount of stuff you lug back and forth. If you have laundry at the time share you only need a few changes of clothes, you’ll do laundry a lot anyway. Second the suggestion of double snap n go and baby wearing. Less is more.
blogger / apricot / 439 posts
@theRoo and @Modern Daisy: Great advice on shipping things back – thanks!

@MediaNaranja: So great to have someone to message with questions – I’m sure I will as we work out more logistics!
@MrsSRS: I’m totally with you and definitely thinking pack ‘n play is the way we’re going to go.
@sunshineandsushi: I’ve gotten several tips about this and I will check it out ASAP!
@MamaBear87: Thanks for this advice. We actually observed this happen to a family recently on a plane so we were aware of it. We are flying SW so we will be able to pick seats as we board (thank goodness!)
@T.H.O.U.: Great idea; I need to look into this option for sure.
@Ms.Badger: We just received carriers for the babies this weekend as a gift and Mr. Starfish practiced carrying one of our cats around in one of them – haha! But I don’t think this is the level of practice you had in mind.
@Mrs tartan: You are so sweet to say such nice things about me, it warms my heart! I do feel the baby girl moving around all the time and it is so special; I always envision her sister dancing back a few states away.
@daniellemybelle: Yes, another post to come! Stay tuned!
@GabrielaSalome: Wow, that’s quite a trip you had with a little one. Great advice, I will check out this bassinet option!
@jedeve: Awesome question, and one that I plan on addressing in a future post – stay tuned!
@birdabouttown: Thanks for the advice – so much to consider!
@Teachermama and @Truth Bombs: Great question, and I haven’t addressed it yet. There are several reasons the surrogate can’t travel to Chicago for the birth. She has 3 young children in Utah and needs to be near home; she can’t travel so late in her pregnancy; I want her to be as comfortable as possible with her own doctor and hospital. Mostly, it’s just that I want her to be as relaxed and comfy as possible!
@Mini Piccolini: Thank you so much for the perspective. It is such a relief to hear other people have traveled with little ones and everyone survived – thank you!
@catomd00: Our surrogate has offered up a pack ‘n play while we’re in Utah and I’m so grateful. I think this will be a great solution.
@Truth Bombs: So good to know. We are flying SW so I will keep this in mind! I hope I can get the birth certificate for the second baby quickly with this being the case…
@Alexandra603 and @Mrs Green Grass: I’m thinking the rock ‘n play is definitely getting packed!
@Paul: Yes, I’m so hoping we have cooperative flight attendants for these flights – I think that will go a very long way. Great to know about the hotel crib. I think I will at least see what they have available; no harm in that!