Tonight, before bed, Little Oats asked me to tell her a story about school. Ever since I mentioned, offhand, that kindergarten registration starts in a few weeks, she has been obsessed with the idea of going to school. She asks me to painstakingly outline every aspect of her day; what she will pack, how long the walk will take, who will be in her class, what kind of activities they will do. A lot of these questions are met with ‘I don’t know’- because I don’t know who her friends will be, what her teacher’s name is, or what activities she will do each day. But she takes it all in stride, and just tells me to ‘guess’ and ‘imagine.’ So I do.
When does school start?
Here in Ontario, ‘real’ school starts the year you turn four. Junior kindergarten is the first step, and in recent years it has transitioned from a half day/every other day program to a full day every day program. As long as you turn 4 before December 31, you can start in September. Some parents will choose to keep their kids back if they have later birthdays, but (at least around here) red shirting isn’t really something that happens. I didn’t really realize what a foreign concept kindergarten at age four was, until I posted something on Facebook and was bombarded by Hellobee friends whose minds were blown.
After junior kindergarten comes senior kindergarten, then grades 1-8, 9-12, just like in the States. Preschool or pre-kĀ isn’t a set program here, like it is elsewhere. If you’d like your kids to have a bridge between home and school or daycare and school, there are private preschools available. Most kids I know go right from daycare into school though; preschool programs are often expensive and specialized. The coolest concept I’ve seen in Ontario is Forest schools; schools that are primarily based outdoors. There’s a Forest kindergarten in our area, and if it were closer to our house at all, or province-funded, we would definitely consider it!
What is school like?
Once we’ve exhausted the topic of WHEN she will go to school, Little Oats wants to know what will happen at school. Our county switched to a ‘two break’ system several years ago. I thought it was the strangest thing, but now that I have an active three year old, I totally understand! When I was in elementary school, we would have a 15 minute recess in the morning, a 60 minute lunch at noon, and another 15 minute recess in the afternoon. School was from 9am to 3:20pm, and we were outside 3 times a day. Now, there is more of a focus on nutrition and exercise, rather than just shovelling your lunch in as fast as you could before running to play outside.
At around 10am, there is First Nutritional Break. Kids eat a large snack/half of their lunch, then have a good chunk of time outside. Then, around 1pm, there is Second Nutritional Break where kids eat their second large snack and have more time outside. This segments the day into bigger chunks for learning, and also allows more eating time. School still goes roughly from 9am to 3pm, but this varies from school to school.
Kindergartens here run on a ‘play-based’ curriculum, with a lot less focus on sitting and learning through worksheets, etc. (certainly compared to when we were in school!). There are many active learning centres, and a focus on experiences, imaginary play, and cooperation.
What do I bring with me?
Elementary schools in Ontario typically don’t have cafeterias or lunch rooms. Kids bring their snacks and lunches, and eat in their classrooms. Some teachers will have their ‘planning time’ during lunch, and another teacher or classroom volunteer will supervise the class while they are eating. The large majority of schools here are peanut and tree-nut free, which means that peanut butter sandwiches and Little Oats’ favourite granola bars are off the table as far as lunch is concerned. Since switching to the two break system, it is recommended that kids are sent with either two separate lunch bags, or two clearly defined ‘meals’; that way, kids aren’t eating everything at first break, only to be left starving by 1pm.
School supplies are typically supplied by the school board, though there will be a list of things to bring. I’ve heard stories of teachers in the States shelling out huge quantities of their own money to supply their class with things like Kleenex, pencils, and art supplies. As far as I know, in our county at least, this isn’t often an issue. Sure, sometimes teachers will ask for help collecting special materials for class projects, and every kid brings their own pencil case, notebook, etc. But for the most part, at least in kindergarten, everything is provided.
Indoor and outdoor shoes are another concept that totally intrigues Little Oats. We don’t wear shoes in the house; in fact, I don’t know a single Canadian family who DOES wear shoes in the house. This is a concept totally foreign to us, and I didn’t even realize that shoes could be worn inside until I was like 20. That being said, indoor shoes are crucial for school. At least 8 months of the year, the ground is covered in snow, slush or some hybrid. Another two months, everything is muddy and gross. Switching shoes just makes sense. I’m sure indoor/outdoor shoes are an American idea as well….but I’ve been wrong before! Little Oats is just thrilled that she gets to pick TWO new pairs of shoes.
What about holidays?
My frame of reference for American schools is pretty limited to what I know from my family who lives in Florida, and what I’ve seen on TV. That being said, if I’m being told correctly, school in the States often starts in late August and ends in late May (true?). In Ontario, we start after the Labour Day long weekend in September, and the last day of school is typically the last week of June. We have a good sprinkling of PA Days and holidays throughout, and March Break happens the second or third week in March. Kids get about two weeks off at Christmas, and we’ve got a few statutory holidays that are unique to us (Family Day in February, Victoria Day in May). Summer vacation lasts for 2 months, which is pretty good because SUMMER typically only lasts for two months. So it’s all good.
After we’ve covered all of these topics (maybe a little less in depth and with more discussion about the exact COLOUR of her indoor shoes), Little Oats is ready for bed. Soon enough, she’ll be in school all day every day, and chatting about the details at night won’t be so exciting. But it’s interesting to get a glimpse of kindergarten through a 3-year-old’s eyes.
Who else has a kiddo starting kindergarten in the fall? Does Canadian kindergarten sound as bizarre as some of my American friends have led me to believe?
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
As an American parent with a child in Kindergarten, what you’ve described sounds to me like preschool.
Kindergarten (at least in my area) is academic and begins when children are either 5 or turning 5 during the fall of that school year. It entails expanding on writing skills and learning to read. There isn’t a single play center in the room, no toys at all. It’s literally little tables where they do academic work.
Now, prior to this, my son was in a preschool program that sounds pretty much like what you describe. That was privately paid.
nectarine / 2317 posts
Not sure where you are in Ontario but there is a TDSB forest kindergarden in Toronto.
blogger / apricot / 275 posts
I am so intrigued by this post! Our son will be 4 in July and I can’t imagine him going to kindergarten already, but we have enrolled him in a Pre-K program next year which sounds similar to what you do in Canada (except that it’s a 1/2 day program and not free!)
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My son will start Pre-k here in the states this fall! It’s 1/2 days, 5 days/week and a mix of play/academic work. I’m not sure on the breaks during the day, but I have never heard of the indoor/outdoor shoes concept : ) I’m hoping things change over the summer because as of right now, he is NOT excited to go!
blogger / kiwi / 588 posts
DS will be 4 soon and we will be enrolling him in a Pre-K program that starts at the end of August. Canadian Kinder sounds like American Pre-K. Excited to hear more about Little Oats’ school experience when she starts attending!
blogger / honeydew / 7081 posts
@Banana330: a friend of mine is trying to get our school board (Simcoe) on board!
blogger / honeydew / 7081 posts
@looch: I can’t imagine a five year old sitting still at a table to learn for that long? Wow!
Our kids learn to read, write, etc, but in a much less structured way. Interested!
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
@Mrs. Oatmeal: Yep, it’s very academic. We have a whole thread about it on the boards.
pea / 23 posts
I’m from Alberta, and things are a bit different over here. Children typically start school in K/G, Pre-k would be an optional, private program (similar to preschool). Most K/G programs are half days, Monday through Friday. I find the scheduling of meals/breaks that you describe interesting. As a former teacher, the children’s first and only break was an hour long lunch time, but teaching grade 1, I always had a morning snack break for the children because they needed it. Our curriculum is similar to yours, less skill based and more inquiry based. I’m not quite sure how I feel about it at this time as I’ve seen many children not succeed with this method. My daughter will be starting K/G September of next year, so I still have some time to worry about it, but it’s definitely something I think about regularly. My #1 concern is getting her into our community school. The school is capped and once they hit their max number children are sent to another school, which is about a 45 minute bus ride one way. So on registration day parents typically start lining up at 6am! It’s so crazy.
coffee bean / 27 posts
@looch: My mom teaches Kindergarten and grade 1 & 2(we’re in Canada) and until the curriculum was revised like 10-ish (?) years ago, our kindergarten was much more traditional with desks and structured reading and writing like you’re describing. Play-based or inquiry-based learning also teaches reading and writing (the expectations and subjects/content are still the same), but is much more child-led and unstructured based on how children learn so much through play. Inquiry-based learning goes all the way up to high school in Ontario (although inquiry-based classrooms in older grades is a bit newer). Sorry if any of that is redundant, I haven’t read the thread on the boards yet
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I’m from Southern Ontario and also a teacher. My son started JK this year and was only 3 until December 22! I was really worried about him being so little but he loves school. He feel asleep on the bus the first few weeks but now he seems to have adjusted really well. I think the play based learning really helps.
Typically in Ontario a more “structured” day doesn’t start until grade 1. However, in my board there are more and more K/1 splits appearing.
I wanted to mention that I teach in the public board and the school generally provides the necessary supplies. That being said, I still use a ton of my own money to make sure kids have the necessary supplies. I finally told my class today I was no longer providing pencils (which I purchase with my own money). My son goes to Catholic school (which is publically funded in Ontario). I had to provide over $50 in supplies for his class at the beginning of the year.
pomelo / 5621 posts
I’m in AB and because of when DS Birthday is he won’t start kindergarten until he is 5.5, which will be 2018.
Next school year would be pre-school if we opted but he will just stay at his daycare in the pre-school class.
blogger / clementine / 985 posts
Same boat here! We’re in Ontario and M starts this September. Right now she’s in the preschool portion of our municipal daycare program, which is run out of the same building so she’s already familiar with a lot of it.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
@sugarpea: I would love to know more about the process on how they teach actual reading in a play based environment. I can’t wrap my head around it based on my current experience with my son, but I am sure it’s possible!
cantaloupe / 6630 posts
We left Canada and moved to England late 2015 and I hadn’t realized then but had we stayed, DD would have been going to school Sept 2016 as a three-year-old (November birthday). Being in England bought her another year so she starts this September. I am much happier with that start date. She goes to a forest school preschool and it’s amazing! I prefer Canada in pretty much every way but the school start date did bother me over there.
coffee bean / 27 posts
@looch: There are lots of different ways that reading is taught in a play-based/inquiry-based classroom. This explains it better than I can:
http://www.journeytogetherfdk.com/literacy-through-play/
Basically, it’s a combination of resources (lettered bean bags, magnetic letters, baskets of books throughout the room, labeling as much as possible in the room, etc), child-led independent reading (many opportunities for children to explore books or other reading materials of their choice), guided practice (practice reading in small groups with a teacher or volunteer with a focus on each child’s needs and learning style), at home reading (choosing books at their reading level and bringing them home to read with a parent), read alouds, and shared reading/reading buddies.
The teacher still teaches normal subject content and follows a curriculum, it’s just taught in a different way. So for example, the kids might decide they want to learn about money by opening a ‘restaurant’. They reorganize the classroom to look like a restaurant and write a menu. They make some apple muffins as a class to learn about measurement and chemistry (also good practice reading the recipe together). Then they take turns serving their classmates the muffins and practice taking their orders (practicing writing). Once they’re done with the restaurant they graph how many people liked the apple muffins and how many didn’t or something like that. The teacher is the facilitator and teaches, but the children lead how they’re going to learn something. I hope that makes sense
coconut / 8472 posts
Just an FYI, I’ve never heard of indoor/outdoor shoes for public places here in the US. You might have shoes or slippers for your house, but there isn’t really such a thing for school. The closest would be if it’s super snowy or slushy you might send a kid in boots and have them bring a pair of sneakers to wear at school. But those sneakers wouldn’t be strictly “indoor” shoes, they’d get worn outside when the weather’s dryer.
nectarine / 2436 posts
This was fascinating! I’m a teacher in an area with great public schools that I and all my family have attended, and I’m glad to say our kindergartens are probably half play, half academic. It horrifies me to think of 5 year olds sitting at tables doing worksheets
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I’m in Indiana and our local public school kindergarten seems to provide a great mix of academic and play. They have lots of “centers” with crafts and materials used to “play” and enforce academic concepts.
And no, the indoor/ outdoor shoes isn’t anything I’ve ever heard of but makes sense!