Well, it turns out we have quite an acrobat on our hands! Baby TTT has flipped so many times, it’s a little hard to believe.
At 30 weeks, we had an ultrasound and he was head up. I was a little concerned, but the perinatologist assured me that it wasn’t too late for him to flip, and that we wouldn’t be concerned until 34 weeks. To help things move in the right direction, I started doing lots of pelvic tilts and always tried to sit up straight so my spine was not curved. This is supposed to help so the baby won’t settle in a breech position.
At 34 weeks, I cried to my doctor because I was so worried that he would remain breech and I’d have to have a c-section, but when he felt around and listened to the heart beat, he said the baby was head down! Yay! I was able to figure out that he flipped the Saturday before that, when I was woken up in the middle of the night from his crazy movements that kept me up for several hours. I was relieved and stopped doing the pelvic tilts.
Then, two weeks later, my doctor discovered that he was head up… again. I was disappointed, but not as devastated as before because I had some time to get used to the idea that baby TTT might not cooperate and I might have to have a c-section.
Finally, a week later at my most recent perinatologist appointment, he was head down! Unfortunately, my fluid levels are very low, so now I’m sort of on bed rest, but that’s a whole different story. Right when I got home, I started doing exercises on the birth ball to open my pelvis in hopes that I can get him locked down in there head first.
Throughout all of this, I’ve done some research on how to flip a breech baby and what to do if the flipping never happens. The best resource I’ve found for this is Spinning Babies. Here’s what they have to say about flipping:
- Put yourself in the position you want your baby to be in — head down!
- Share your plan with your caregiver before you begin.
- When your womb is in balance, the baby is likely to flip head down by themself
- If the baby is still breech at 37 weeks or later, it may be worth it to have a external cephalic version
- When breech runs in the family, the mother’s thyroid is low-functioning, or the womb has a septum or unusual shape, these exercises may or may not work.
- Talk to your baby, heart to heart, and tell your baby what you want – and ask your baby what she/he needs in this situation, too.
“Many chiropractors who use the Webster Technique identify themselves as “chiropractic pediatricians,” a title they are not qualified to claim. Most chiropractic students receive about 15 hours of classroom instruction in obstetrics and gynecology and 15 hours in pediatrics [1], certainly not enough training to warrant treating patients in these fields.”
“Researchers compared outcomes for planned cesarean and planned vaginal birth for breech babies among 8,105 women in France and Belgium. Of those who planned a vaginal birth, 71% were successful and there was no significant difference in outcomes between the vaginal birth and cesarean delivery groups.”
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I have been following along with your breech situation! I was first told the baby was breech at 20 weeks (when it doesn’t matter), and that he was still breech at 24 weeks. I forgot to ask during my 28 week appointment, but at my 31 (supposed to be 30) week appointment, my new care provider told me that he is back to head down. Now this week, 33 weeks, I feel like he might be head up again.
grapefruit / 4817 posts
I’ve also heard that it can help to throw a frozen bag of peas on the top of your uterus and have your hubby talk down by your pelvis to encourage the baby to follow the sound. Sounds easy and worth a try, even if you look like a crazy person.
blogger / pomegranate / 3300 posts
Hope he stays put and you get the delivery experience you want. Csections aren’t bad. I’m a two time c section momma. But if you can do it vaginally the recovery is a little better!!!’. Good luck I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you
blogger / pomegranate / 3201 posts
@bree72: yes, spinning babies talks about this and we have tried having my husband talk him down. The ice part isn’t so comfortable for me, but I’d do it if he was head up again.
@Allison k: oh no! Best of luck to you!!
coffee bean / 49 posts
My sister is a swimming instructor specializing in mommy & infant classes–starting kiddos as early as 6 weeks! She has had a lot of success in helping pregnant clients get their babies to flip by supervising handstands in the pool. Usually you need a series of 10-15 handstands in deeper water, and it should definitely be done with some help (to hold your legs and make sure you’re not holding too long—you need to breathe!). It has worked like a charm at least 4 times in the past year…so for what it’s worth, you might want to get yourself to a pool!
apricot / 453 posts
I think it’s a good sign that he is still flipping around – I’m guessing he will be head down when you go into labor, even if he does flip once or twice in between there.
We found out at 34 weeks that our son was breech. I balled all the way home from the doctor’s office at the thought of having a c-section. I tried a lot of what you mentioned (including playing music lower on my tummy and a bag of frozen peas at the top) with no luck. I went to see a local chiropractor who didn’t know the Webster technique but thought she could help – I went twice and didn’t go back. She didn’t do anything to hurt me or the baby – but I just knew it wasn’t working. I wanted to do the ECV but the baby ended up being in a poor position and my fluid levels were also pretty low. I was bummed but tried to stay positive and focus on the end goal – a safe and healthy baby. I went in for a scheduled c-section at 39.5 weeks. I wanted to wait until I went into labor to have the c-section but it was too risky, since we live an 1 ½ hours from our hospital.
Our son was born 6 months ago today. Poor thing was frank breech and his legs were always at a 90 degree angle from his body for the first couple of weeks. He couldn’t really lay on his back, he just flopped over to the side. Fortunately, his hips are fine now!
Side note: My c-section recovery was pretty easy – the most painful part of the whole process was when they stuck me with the IV. I’d love to try a VBAC with my second if it’s in the cards.
Here’s to hoping he stays right-side down!
honeydew / 7968 posts
both my babies are head down. but i think i’m still going with the c-section. turns out A is locked in (because B has blocked her way so she can’t turn), but B has the potential to flip and my absolute worst fear is giving vaginal birth for 1 and having an emergency c-sec for the other. (i’d be getting the worst of both worlds! lol)….
btw, my baby was breech for the longest time and only within the past few weeks he turned down.
blogger / apricot / 366 posts
Fingers crossed Baby TTT stays head down!! Baby H has been head down our past 3 appointments and I’m hoping for no movement in that department.
Sending good vibes your way!
blogger / pomegranate / 3201 posts
@eastportbride: Spinning Babies mentions this as well! I’d have to go to a public pool, but I might if I got desperate.
@theknest: I hope you get your VBAC one day!!
@Mrs. Hopscotch: Thank you!!
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I’m 38w5d, my little girl was head down since 30 weeks until last week, when she flipped! It’s not very common for a baby who’s in the correct position to flip back out so late. We’re thinking a fall I had last week might have bounced her out.
My husband I discussed the possiblity of doing an ECV however my doctor told me sucess rate is only about 50% and less likely to work in first time moms. The risks for ECV include having the placenta detach or having the baby’s heart rate drop from the distress resulting in an emergency c-section. Plus he doctor may use an injected medication to relax the uterus muscles which could have it’s own risks. We decided it wasn’t for us.
Nowthat we’re faced with the posiblilty of a c-section I wasn’t planning for at all so late in the game, I turned to my chirpractor who I’ve been receiving regular treatments from for the whole pregnancy. She’s using the webster techique and I can’t possibly imagine what is risky to my baby about what she’s doing – gentle massage on muscles and tendons that support the uterus to relax them and allow the baby room to move as well as the same adjustments to my pelvis she’s been doing the whole pregnancy that’s helped releive a lot of hip pain I’ve had and made it possible for me to walk. She doesn’t do anything to the actual baby. Her personal success rate has been around 80% but she warned me that it might not work and also if the baby doesn’t move there might be a good reason she’s staying heads up and we should trust the baby. She’s been very honest with me about the process and when I asked her opinion on an ECV, she reminded me that it’s something I need to discuss with my doctor as it’s not a proceedure that she does. I just wanted to throw out some support to the chripractic method because even though it’s hard to say if the Webster technique actually helps (babies may move on their own) and our baby hasn’t moved (not yet at least), we decided it’s non-invasive it’s worth a try a try. So I’ll be seeing her a couple more times before my next appointment monday evening and our fingers are crossed that she moves. If not we’ll scheduling a c-section and trusting that the baby may have a very good reason for not turning back down.
pomegranate / 3053 posts
I’ve heard of acupuncture as another avenue to try. My first was breech and the thought of the external version scared me so I scheduled a c-section even if I was mentally not prepared for it. Plus, you can only do it within certain weeks and if your amniotic fluid is enough. Even then there’s no guarantee that your baby won’t flip back. I think my son was breech for a while and totally comfortable so I left him alone.
Totally not ready for a c-section b/c my husband and I didn’t pay attention to the c-section part of our class. Oops. Just asked my OB a bunch of questions a couple of weeks before and that’s it. Overall, I did’t mind the c-section. My recovery was painful the first two weeks but then only got better and better. I also didn’t bleed so much afterwards even if it went on for a few weeks which is normal. Having another one in less than two weeks I decided to schedule another c-section b/c I know how it is to have one and the recovery. I will have no idea what a VBAC would be like and don’t want to take the risk to only end up with an emergency c-section. My OB said that if I had a VBAC he would support it but it would be like having a first baby. That’s why he thinks I will make my scheduled date. I hope he’s right!
Good luck and I hope your baby stays head down! The decision to have a c-section was a bit shocking to me at first but then I finally got around to accepting it…. I was so ready to have a vaginal birth until a few weeks before my son was born.
pomelo / 5866 posts
Mine flipped breech, normal, transverse, breech, normal. The docs had even said she was engaged head down at one point and I thought I was home free but she ‘popped back out’ and went transverse. I can’t really remember the details but it was all in the last month, including one dramatic change in the last week while I was one week overdue. My fluids were pretty good, I think. I read some Spinning Babies but didn’t do any of it. For fun, we tried a wacky thing we read in a book. Played music and shined a miner’s light down there. Ahhh the memories.
But seriously, I was also very concerned and didn’t want to do the medical flip (Inversion?) so we prayed a lot and with many people. For the record, my LO is still very flexible and acrobatic, at one year old. I wish you and your babe a smooth healthy delivery.
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My second baby was still breech at 39 weeks. I did go to a chiropractor that was certified in Webster’s technique. I didn’t know what to expect and was very nervous. We had a consultation first and I was able to ask questions about success rates, etc. It was very non-invasive. Basically, she applied slight pressure to two points on my belly while I was slightly inclined. It took about 5 minutes. I went to 3 sessions and the baby flipped on her due date. It’s definitely not as scary as it seems. Also, I have a friend that had success with pre-natal massage. There are gentle options out there!
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I had c-sec i got a baby girl and i am glad i did it
to make the long story short 3 doctors told us that my baby is breeech and my fluid is short and no mater what 36+ weeks I think cesarean is mandotary we give you a chance to think please let us know coz no time here to many petient, I think million times so my huspand we call our family doctor he told us just follow his fellow doctors the ceserean group! I call mu brother he told me the same fanily i trust God the one who created me first time now he can save me too and with his help I am fine and the baby too
thank you but i would not recommend c-sec unless is critical time or you have to … kind of thing
thank you all good luck