When Missus Scooter and I got married in 2010, neither one of us changed our last name. There was no purpose behind it, no philosophical position we were trying to preserve. We got married in our 30’s and didn’t feel a strong desire to identify as married people by changing our last names. When we decided to have a baby, however, I found my feelings changing on the topic. When I thought about either Missus Scooter or me having a different last name from our baby, it bothered me. I can’t put my finger on any particular reason why; it just felt funny. Don’t get me wrong — I don’t think having the same last name is the mark of a good family. Far from it! But Missus Scooter and I had the luxury of choosing to have the same last name so I found myself pondering the question: would I like everyone in our family to share the same last name?
Sharing a last name with your kid(s) can further amplify the feeling of ownership and attachment, the feeling of being ‘part of.’ There is a sort of claim that happens when you share a last name: this child is MINE because we share the same name. No one questions it. Additionally, sharing a last name with your child has other practical ramifications. Extra introductions or explanations about why your last names are different may be required. Many women say that repeatedly explaining or correcting the assumption that you share the last name with your child can be annoying: from the pediatrician to daycare to signing up for various activities or services. There can also be added challenges with air or overseas travel.
On the flip side, not sharing the same last name has its place. In today’s modern society, it isn’t assumed that just because you marry you lose your identity. Long-standing traditions change as our culture changes. Missus Scooter and I have already broken many “traditional” values in the eyes of many, it wouldn’t be out of the norm to break the custom of sharing the same last name. As mentioned, we got married in our thirties and had a baby in our mid thirties. As such, we’ve lived with our last names for a long time! We established careers with our own last names and our circles of friends know us by our given names. Additionally, while Missus Scooter and I don’t have this phenomenon, many individuals prefer to keep their last names if they have a strong cultural identification that may not exist with their partner’s last name (I.e. A Chinese woman marries a Caucasian man and doesn’t want to lose her Chinese identity).
In the end, I really just wanted to share the same last name with Baby O and Missus Scooter, together as a family. It was just how I felt. Happily, Missus Scooter felt the same way. Now that the big decision was made that we would all in fact share the same last name, we got to the interesting part of the conversation where we pondered which last name it would it be. One of the cool/uncool things about being two women is for decisions like this;we can’t just default to the societal norms that exist around us.
There was no rational argument about why my last name versus Missus Scooter’s last name was the better choice. They’re both kind of weird, hard to spell, and generally mispronounced! We both equally liked our last names and weren’t particularly keen to give them up. Our plan was to have one biological child each so choosing the biological mother’s last name wasn’t a slam dunk either.
And we had other options: we could take both last names by either hyphenating our last names or replacing our middle names. But this seemed overly complicated. The combination of our two last names didn’t exactly roll off your tongue, and this way both of us would have to go through the headache of changing our last names. We had this discussion while I was pregnant, and the thought of adding one more thing to the to-do list seemed daunting. Alternately, we could have chosen a completely new last name. This was sort of fun to think about… we could be Mrs. Kennedy or Mrs. Washington or Mrs. Jolie! After some fun thinking about that, we decided it didn’t resonate for us to both give up our last names in search of something totally new.
So the question was whose last name would we choose? As I mentioned above, there was no clear choice as to whose it would be. So we flipped a coin.
Ok… a slight digression… in a previous post, I wrote about flipping a coin about who would try to conceive first. I’ve had a moment of clarity in writing this post that Missus Scooter and I make big, monumental decisions by flipping coin. Seriously? Who does this?!?! *sigh
Back on track. We went to one of our favorite places to eat, sat at the bar (another one of our favorite things to do) and called which side we wanted. We flipped the coin and alas, it was determined I would be changing my last name. The beauty about this process is there is no basis for complaining, rationalizing, or lobbying against the decision. Explaining it to friends/family about why one last name or another is straightforward. It’s not personal and it’s not a rejection of the last name who isn’t chosen. We just flipped a coin. That’s it.
When Baby O was born and we went to get her birth certificate, we knew she would take Missus Scooter’s last name. I, on the other hand, have just now gotten around to changing my last name. And while I might have complained a little about all of the tedious steps I had to go through, in the end I am pleased. Our little family of three all share the same last name and we can properly lay “claim” to each other as our own!
Do you share the same last name as your partner/child? Was this an easy decision?
GOLD / cantaloupe / 6581 posts
I actually only changed my name when I got married because we were planning on having kids. I love my maiden name and am very attached to it, and we are actually giving it to LO as a middle name!
But anyways, when the time came for us to get married and make the decision on my name, I decided that I was very uncomfortable with the idea of having a name that was different than my child. Not just for cohesiveness or identity issues, but also for safety. I had a thought of LO being in the emergency room for some horrible thing, and my not being able to get to them because my name was different. It may have been irrational or silly, but it made up my mind! It’s awesome to hear other, similar perspectives on how kids can change our mind on things like names!
wonderful olive / 19353 posts
Love how y’all decide on big decisions via a coin toss. Something about that is so… classic? haha!
Growing up, I always thought I’d be Mrs. (husband’s last name), but when the time finally came to make it happen, I grew super attached to my maiden name. So weird! Since I didn’t have a middle name, I moved my maiden name over. my last name is definitely a last name so as a middle name, it’s a little odd, but I liked it! Plus, it was my identify for 24 years!! 6 months after we were married, I think I would have been okay being a two name person like I was all my life. First name, hubby’s last name. I like the fact that I share a name with the hubby, and now our baby!
blogger / pomelo / 5400 posts
Interesting. I kept my name, so my LO and I don’t share a last name. Honestly, it doesn’t bug me. That kid is so *mine* that the last thing I need is to share a name with him to feel like his mama. But I also grew up in a blended family and ceased to share a last name with my mom fairly early on, so I think that colors my perspective.
I may feel differently when I have to explain myself to his future teachers, but so far, so good.
pomelo / 5321 posts
I changed my name without hesitation when I got married. It was never a question in my mind. I knew I wanted to share my last name with my husband. I do wish I had kept my maiden name as my middle name now. Maybe I’ll get around to changing it someday.
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Great post and such an interesting solution! My husband and I are different ethnicities, and we each kept our last name. This was a no-brainer for me: it’s really common in my profession/social circle; it’s aligned with my personal feminist principles. And he wasn’t interested in changing his last name, either. No biggie.
We now have a 2.5 year old that shares his last name (my last name is featured as her second middle name). I was alright with our decision because: A) our last names rhyme in a dorky way … this hyphenation would not good for the playground; B) our kiddo is half-Asian /half-white, and he is the Asian side … I didn’t want to be privileging the white side over the Asian side; and, C) it’s more traditional (ugh), we avoided family push-back, and he was into it.
So, it slightly bugs me not to share a name with my daughter … but I still feel fairly fine about our decision.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21616 posts
This is a really interesting post!
I laughed at the coin toss- so funny!
Side note: you said that your plan was to have one biological child each: is this still the plan, Missus Scooter will have the next baby?! That’s so cool.
blogger / pomegranate / 3300 posts
It was easy for me. I took my husband name when we married and our kids all share our family name. I guess I am fairly traditional. I had no problem with giving up my name and taking his.
I love the coin toss!
nectarine / 2690 posts
My sister and her wife decided who would take who’s last name the same way, by flipping a coin. So, my sister was supposed to take her wife’s last name, however after looking at how much it would cost (since same sex marriage is not legal in the state of Arizona, yet) she has not changed her name yet. Hopefully someday soon she will (because she wants to).
I took my husbands last name…it was just something I always wanted to do!
coconut / 8279 posts
We flipped the tradition. DH had a rough, abusive childhood, was the only one born in this country and never knew any family outside his parents and brother.
When we decided to get married and have a baby, he took my name.
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I was insistent when we got married that our whole family needed to have the same last name. I think because I didn’t share the same last name as my family (mom, step-dad, and half brother) growing up, and always felt a little odd man out. Husband and I ended up hyphenating. It’s not perfect–it’s a lot to spell–but it’s worked for us.
grapefruit / 4669 posts
Wanting to have the same last name as my kids is the main reason I changed from my maiden name to DH’s name. Our names would sound super weird hyphenated, so it seemed like the easy thing to do. I miss my maiden name, though!
wonderful pea / 17279 posts
I changed my name rightaway. My family thought it was super quick and I may have hurt my dad’s feeling. Sharing the same last name as my husband was important and symbolized the legitimacy that marriage was different than just a committed relationship. I also want to have the same, shared last name as my children. There are so many baby mamas and baby daddies in the world and having the same last name put a stamp that I am wife and mother. My husband’s last name is very common, and my maiden name was different, cool. When I look at old documents with my maiden name or even read new junk mail with my old last name I am proud of it and the family it represents.
GOLD / apricot / 341 posts
I wanted to have the same surname as our future children so I changed mine. But I also got sentimental and decided to keep my maiden name as a second middle name. I thought it would only really be me who knew it was there, and also that it would allow me to ease into my new last name and not make such a sudden change professionally. But annoyingly, what I’ve ended up with is a long double surname (on passport, drivers license etc) which is just super annoying for travel. I will probably end up just changing it to just my married name and I kind of wish I had just done it right from the beginning.
pomegranate / 3604 posts
I was going to double barrel my last name but never got around to changing it legally. *shrug* it’s not a big deal.
coffee bean / 48 posts
My husband’s mother never changed her last name, I think because she got married pretty late and had a pretty solid professional career going. It never caused any problems for their family, at least none that they’ve felt the need to mention, so they’ve been supportive of me keeping my own last name. I think our general plan is for his name to be the “family name”; I’m pretty comfortable with the idea of my future kid’s friends calling me “Mrs. K” rather than Mrs. C. (or would it technically be Ms. C?) My mother in law pretty much goes by their family name for social stuff, and even has her name on facebook that way, so she mainly just uses her real name for actual legal documents and such.
blogger / cherry / 247 posts
@ mrs. pen: yep, the plan is for mrs. scooter to have the next baby. but like any good plan, we are prepared to adjust if necessary!
@jennylayneaz: gay marriage isn’t legal in CA either, however we did have a wedding so we consider ourselves married and call each other by the title of “wife.” anyway. on the legal side of things, we are registered domestic partners. a domestic partnership certificate bears the same status as a marriage certificate with social security, which is the first place you go to change your name. with the domestic partnership certificate, the name changing process was free. does arizona not allow same-sex domestic partnership registrations?
@rachiecakes: i think this is really sweet…and makes total sense. sometimes the constant familial reminder is not good for the soul. i love the idea of your hubby seeing his last name and having great memories now instead of bad ones.
cantaloupe / 6730 posts
Call me crazy, but I think it makes perfect sense that you flip a coin over important decisions. To me, it says that not only are you on the same page, but you respect eachother’s views to not want to impose your view on the other person. No winners, no losers.
pomegranate / 3225 posts
oh my gosh, this was hard for me. I never changed my name when I got married. Three years later when I got pregnant, It just didn’t seem right to me that my baby would have a different last name as me (NO I did not want to hyphenate) so I changed it. I love to travel and I had visions of complications with passports, etc. It was a real pain to change it after 3 years, too! Now I am used to my new last name and it doesn’t bother me.
It’s so funny to my husband and I that other people always seemed to think it was such a big deal and loved to comment when we had different last names… when it didn’t effect them in the slightest!
blogger / apricot / 427 posts
I didn’t change my last name when I got married. I was pretty set against it, for a few different reasons. It annoyed my husband and his family quite a bit – but once he realized it was important to me, we agreed that it was the right thing for me to do. It hasn’t made us any less married and, in general, I maybe think about the whole thing once or twice a year.
Once we got pregnant my husband was insistent that the baby take his last name. I wasn’t thrilled with this idea – but honestly, I made the decision for myself because it was right for me and I don’t feel like it’s my place to make the decision one way or another for my son. He has my husband’s last name and although it’s sometimes a bit different to explain to people – I see no issues with it so far
To each his/her own.
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I love that this is a decision people can make now – and that it is not just assumed that it will be one way or the other. When my wife and I got married, it was important to both of us to be seen as a unit – plus, we knew we were going to be having children soon after, and, like you, I wanted us all to have that connection. I don’t have a middle name and I have a very unique first name that I am most definitely known for, my wife is known to a lot of people by a version of her last name – so in the end, I felt like it was a pretty easy decision. We took her name and I made my maiden name my middle name, We also decided that our first son (should we have one) will have my maiden name as his middle name.
I have to say I love your flipping coin way of deciding – we actually told people that’s how we decided
olive / 51 posts
oops! guess I wasn’t signed in for the first comment…
just wanted to add that I love that your wife will be carrying your second – we have a plan for my Mrs to carry our second – and we have joked that we will flip a coin over our 3rd – though if Mrs can convince me, we’ll be having 4, so I guess we’ll each do 2 – eek!
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
I did not change my last name, so the girls have my last name as a middle name. It doesn’t really bother me, but I wasn’t going to change my name and my identity for another person. Sounds silly, but was mor important to me than sharing a name with the girls. It hasn’t been a pain yet.
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I didn’t change my name when I got married. My mother didn’t change hers either so I grew up assuming I’d keep my maiden name. I have her name as my middle name, which my parents did to make the connection between mother and child more obvious in official situations. It was an even easier decision to keep my name after establishing my career and finding a husband with a very unusual last name (my poor children)! I also never thought twice about what to do with kids – our baby will have his last name, and mine as a middle name. I think 30 years later it will be even easier for my child having non-traditional naming in the family than it was for me (and it wasn’t a big deal, ever).
You can always take my cousin’s approach – they combined their last names into a new last name for the kids. It means three last names in one house (and a little confusion on how to address the Christmas cards), but they’re happy with it!
honeydew / 7916 posts
I didn’t change my name when I got married either. We’ve decided that any children will have hyphenated last names, since it’s important to me that my child be connected to my family name.
nectarine / 2690 posts
@Mrs. Scooter: Honestly I’m not sure. I don’t know that my sister has looked into domestic partnership or not. They, too, had a wedding and everyone considers them married whether or not the state does. I will mention it to her, thanks for the heads up!
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
I took my husband’s last name. I really wanted to and it made him happy as well.
cantaloupe / 6923 posts
How interesting. I did not take my husbands last name at marriage and don’t plan on it but maybe when I have kids that will change? Thanks for this post!