This post was written Wednesday, March 6, 2013.
So, the Babies Blue will be arriving next week at an undetermined time through an undetermined method of delivery. Yeah, there’s a lot up in the air, and this little . . . ahem . . . gigantic mama is ready to have some decisions made. Here’s the situation.
When we learned we were having twins, our doctors assured us that they were fine with doing a vaginal delivery as long as Baby A (the one closest to the cervix) was head down. They had no issue with Baby B being breech and were comfortable delivering him breech if he didn’t turn after Baby A came out. The idea is that Baby A comes out head down and opens everything up and if he fits, it’s almost guaranteed that there will be plenty of room for Baby B to fit through.
The Babies Blue were doing exactly as they should from the very beginning with Baby A head down and Baby B breech. Then, I went to my 28 week ultrasound, and what do you know, Baby A had turned and was breech and Baby B had turned head down. Not helpful, babies. At the next ultrasound, Baby A was still breech, but Baby B had turned again, meaning we had two little breech babies. The doctors assured me that it was still possible for them to turn, even though room was starting to be at a premium in my tummy. Our little boys stayed perfectly content with their faces next to each other, just hanging out and being best friends.
The last 8 weeks, every ultrasound has found me hoping that somehow Baby A had turned head down, and every ultrasound my little man has shown me that he has a mind of his own and is quite content exactly how he is. About 4 weeks ago, I decided I better start looking into and coming to terms with the idea of having a c-section. I spoke with my OB about the process, what it would be like, and the recovery. I felt pretty comfortable with everything, even though it wasn’t the way I had envisioned my “perfect” birth.
Last Monday, my MFM (the high-risk doctor) called to discuss my last ultrasound since he had been out of town at the time. For the first time in my entire pregnancy, he dropped the bomb that he would consider delivering our babies vaginally in a double breech delivery (actually, Baby B had turned transverse, or sideways). He explained that he has delivered Baby A breech multiple times, even though it’s not common, and that our babies were small enough that he felt it would be safe to attempt it. I would be delivering in the OR regardless, so if anything went wrong we would go into an immediate c-section and would be able to have the babies out immediately. He further explained that he would only consider delivering us this way if my cervix was already softening and showing signs of preparation for going into labor because a lengthy induction would be too risky for the babies.
I asked some questions, and we decided to consider the option at our final ultrasound. He will sit down with Mr. Blue and me and discuss the options, risks, and benefits in detail, as well as doing a cervical check and reviewing our ultrasound. Then, if he feels we’re still candidates for doing a breech vaginal delivery, it will be up to Mr. Blue and me to make the final decision.
Assuming that we are given that option, I have absolutely no idea what we should do. Here are out thoughts as of now…
B R E E C H V A G I N A L D E L I V E R Y
- I feel very confident in my MFM and my OB. Both are experienced in breech deliveries and regularly deliver at least Baby B breech. Further, they have experience delivering Baby A breech. They have been cautious and careful in their care of me and of our mono-di twins, so I trust that they wouldn’t allow us this option if they felt it was exponentially riskier for any of our health. If they were not experienced in breech delivery, I would never consider this option.
- It is much safer to deliver twins breech than to deliver a singleton breech. Many people balk as soon as I say we are considering a breech delivery, but it really is a different scenario with twins. Because twins tend to be smaller, there is less risk of the head becoming entrapped, which is one of the major risks of a breech delivery. Two weeks ago at our ultrasound, the boys were estimated to weigh 4 lbs. 11 oz. and 4 lbs. 8 oz. They aren’t tiny, but they certainly are not big fellows. Not that this is a deciding factor, but I have some serious child-birthing hips, so I’m not tooo concerned about them not fitting based on my pelvic size.
- Our Baby A is in the best possible position for a breech delivery. There are three different breech positions. The most dangerous for delivery is called footling breech. The safest position is called frank breech, which means the baby’s bottom is down with its legs up along its chest. A baby in footling breech can start descending in the birth canal before you are fully dilated. This means that when the baby’s biggest parts (shoulders and head) come through, there is a much greater risk of there not being room and either the head can get stuck or the umbilical cord can become trapped cutting off the baby’s blood and oxygen supply. With a frank breech baby, the bottom and thighs coming out first help ensure full dilation before delivery, reducing the risk of entrapment of the cord or head.
- If anything goes wrong, we would already be in the OR, epidural in place and ready to immediately switch to a c-section.
- I do have some additional worries because breech deliveries are generally considered so much riskier and they are done far less frequently. There just aren’t nearly as many birth experiences to read about and our families’ general nervousness adds to my nervousness. The things that can happen during a breech delivery are scary, and I have to remind myself frequently that the risks are reduced in our situation and that I have experienced doctors who won’t hesitate to pull the plug if things take a turn for the worst.
- A vaginal delivery could give our boys a better chance at avoiding NICU. They will be born 3-4 weeks early, and being pushed through the birth canal would help remove any fluid in their lungs, giving them a better shot at breathing properly from the beginning. (Thanks, @arden, for giving me a heads up on this!)
- Though this is at the bottom of my concerns, doing a vaginal delivery is less risky for the mother and would ensure I could try for a vaginal delivery if we decide to have more children.
C – S E C T I O N
- C-sections are far more common for twin births generally and certainly for breech delivery. Because of this, there are just so many more stories and information available to use to prepare for delivery. It’s easier to imagine what it could be like because I can find so many birth stories, both good and bad.
- The babies would come out quickly and wouldn’t be at risk for entrapment, etc. Even though the risk for our boys in a breech delivery appears to be fairly small, that risk is removed by having a c-section.
- Because the process of delivering vaginally helps babies prepare for being outside the womb, our babies might have a little more difficult transition if they are born via c-section. I’m not terribly worried about them not being okay eventually since they will be at least 36 weeks, but it would be awesome if they didn’t have NICU time at all and could just stay with us! If a vaginal birth would help ensure that happens, that’s a huge perk.
- I always wanted to avoid a c-section. It is not my chosen method of delivery at all, although I will obviously do it in a heartbeat if we decide it is better for our sons.
- The recovery would be more difficult with a c-section. It would be great to be back to full speed ahead as quickly as possible because I’ll have two little guys to look over.
So, that’s where we’re at. I would love to avoid having a c-section, but only if we feel that it is a safe way for our boys to enter the world. Our appointment with the MFM should be informative and help us make our decision. We would love to have your thoughts or prayers for wisdom and making the right decision for our family!
Would you ever consider a breech delivery?
blogger / pear / 1964 posts
Stress inducing for you, but it does make for a great ultrasound photo! Will be thinking about you and sending positive labor vibes your way!
coffee bean / 36 posts
I delivered my twins via c-section at 35 1/2 weeks, and had two healthy (big) babies! Baby A (my girl) was breech and I chose at an early stage to do a c-section. There were many factors that played into my decision….but I wasn’t about to labor to end up having a C anyway, which happens too often. My recovery was only difficult because I lost a lot of blood due to my uterus being stretched so far (common again)…so my low hemoglobin is what made the recovery tough. The surgery itself was not hard at all…and the pain from the surgery was not as difficult as I had imagined. Do what feels right…listen to your gut. Pardon the pun!
cherry / 141 posts
I was terribly worried about positioning when our daughter was in the womb. I had read about breech births and knew that if our baby turned out breech I would try to deliver vaginally. The stress of it though because many doctors and midwives will not accept you. It’s not like doctors have listed on their websites “will deliver breech babies.” It’s always by word of mouth when it comes to doctors.
I’m excited for you and the birth of your babies and I hope that everything goes smoothly. Please update us with the birth of your children
nectarine / 2085 posts
I’ll pray for you and your babies! Best wishes!
One thing about the title of the post, though. I cringe every time I see that phrase used regarding c-sections. I know you don’t mean it negatively, but maybe a more accurate description would be better, like “schedule surgery”?
cantaloupe / 6146 posts
That is wonderful that your doctor is willing to let you try for a vaginal delivery–and still have everything ready for a c-section to lower your risk of problems with the vaginal delivery. That is really great.
I would go for the breech delivery. I know plenty of moms from my parent’s general that delivered frank breech (singleton) babies.
I’d say do what feels best for you.
There are many breech twin vaginal birth stories, here is one (VBAC) that my cousin shared with me: http://blog.ican-online.org/2012/04/12/olivias-birth-story-a-whole-lot-of-surprises/
blogger / pomegranate / 3491 posts
You are so amazingly rational at 36 weeks pregnant – I am amazed that you can thnk clearly enough to type, let alone communicate so well all of your concerns. No matter what happens this week, wishing you lots of luck getting babies blue out of there
pomegranate / 3595 posts
Good luck! What a big decision! I am glad you have a good team on your decide and that you will be able to mmake the best choice for your family. So exciting that you will meet your boys this week!
pear / 1610 posts
What a crazy decision! I had a c-section at 36 wks with my DS since he was breech and I struggled with that since it wasn’t my ideal birth. DS had to go to the NICU then because of his breathing. Basically exactly what you described @arden telling you is what happened with DS. It was stressful and scary for a first time mom and at first I was really upset that I needed a c-section, but DH was very reassuring that we needed to do what was best for DS. On the plus side, I had an amazing recovery from my c-section and was up and walking quickly, reaching and turning for things from my bed. I really couldn’t have asked for a better recovery, so there are good recoveries too!
Sorry if that was no help, just the good and bad of our experience! Good luck and I’ll pray for a safe delivery no matter what!
coffee bean / 32 posts
Getting so close!
I had a c-section scheduled for 36 weeks & ended up going in at 34w6d because of my blood pressure. I knew from very early on that I would most likely have a c-section, and with having mono-di twins my understanding was it was less risky than a vaginal birth. Baby A was breech and Baby B was head down in the end. I was okay with this because I had heard & read way too many stories about mom’s being able to deliver the first vaginally but then having to have a c-section because the second was in distress (I was told this was common when they share the same placenta).
I was very happy with my c-section. The recovery was a lot easier than I expected! Minimal pain which was easily controlled by pain meds (safe for breast-feeding), I have a very small scar that is hidden (even in a swim-suit), and I was still able to take care of the babies just fine when we got home. They were in the NICU for 3 days (same length as me), but never had any feeding or breathing tubes. It was just standard at our hospital for any baby born before 36 weeks. We were still able to be with them whenever we wanted!
Although sometimes I feel like I missed out on trying to have a natural birth, I wouldn’t change how any of it happened because my boys were delivered safely! I definitely think having twins adds a lot more decisions and factors to consider when deciding on a birth plan.
Good luck on your decision and I can’t wait to see pictures of them and hear about how things go the first few months. Rest while you can
pea / 11 posts
@honeybear: Count me as another one not liking the post title. “Slice and dice”, really?
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
@honeybear: @thepinksuperhero: mrs. blue is unavailable to comment, so i changed the title for her. i’m sure she didn’t mean it in a negative way at all, but apologies to anyone it might have offended!
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
I hope whatever method you choose goes smoothly! Good luck.
nectarine / 2085 posts
@Mrs. Bee: Thanks! I’m not offended; I know it wasn’t meant to be negative and writing titles is harder than most people think. But based on recent board posts, I think there are at least a few moms on HB who still have a lot of raw emotions surrounding traumatic surgeries, and that characterization could be unsettling, you know? Thanks for changing it.
GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts
good luck!!! sending good labor vibes your way!!!!
bananas / 9357 posts
I think it’s really amazing you have a doc willing to do a breech delivery! Follow your intuition and you’ll make the right decision. Good luck with whatever you decide! Thinking of you and your baby boys.
grapefruit / 4717 posts
Such a well written and well thought out post. Not a decision to make lightly, and I’m impressed with how much you’ve researched. I’m sure you’ll end up making the best decision for you and your boys, no matter what that is. Also great that your dr. is open to the idea of a breech (x2) birth if possible. Best wishes no matter what happens.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21616 posts
So much information!!! This is so interesting as well! I absolutely love that you found a doctor willing to give you multiple options. There is only one hospital in my area (my huge state.. And actually it’s technically not mn because it’s the border of mn) that would even consider a breech birth- much less for twins!
It is interesting to hear that it’s actually less risky for twins… So intriguing!!
I think today was your induction or cesarean date so I’m wishing you the best of luck!!
pear / 1571 posts
Twins or singleton, if I had a care provider experienced and knowledgeable in breech vaginal delivery, I would definitely go for a vaginal delivery.
coconut / 8305 posts
How wonderful that you have such experienced providers!
Personally I would most definitely plan a breech birth, even with a singleton, as my MW is highly experienced in breech birth! (the recommendation in Canada has actually changed & they are beginning to bring back training in breech birth for their providers in med school).
kiwi / 643 posts
Trust your MFM and OB, but also trust your gut.
In my case, both Baby A and Baby A were vertex. Everyone said that a vaginal delivery was not only possible, but recommended. I was only given a choice, really, because they were twins. Well…and because I’m stubborn.
I chose to have a c-section, not because it seemed easiest, but because I just had a “feeling.” I just knew something was off…that something would go wrong if I tried for a vaginal. It was the first true motherly instinct that I ever had, and it started when I was, like, 20 weeks…for real.
As it turned out, our little girl, (Baby B), was actually curled up in such a tight ball that there’s no way she would have been able to deliver vaginally. As it was, the doctor had to literally stand on my stomach to get her out. Sure, she was “vertex”…much good that would have done her.
I tell you this not to push you into doing a c-section, (it ain’t a fun recovery, but it’s very doable). I tell you this to really encourage you to trust your instincts. They are more reliable than any 4D ultrasound!
pomelo / 5321 posts
I have no idea what I would do in your shoes. I know I would completely stressed and applaud you for being so calm and rational! I pray that you have a smooth and easy delivery! I can’t wait to hear about the arrival of the babies blue!
guest
My baby was breech and I had a c-section.
People talk about c-sections like the worst thing could happen to you and your baby. I wanted to have a natural birth but I couldn’t. The c-section was fine. I was at home 4 days later, moving around just like nothing had happened. Baby was totally happy. We didn’t have any problem bonding. I didn’t have any problem with my hormones or breast feeding.
Whatever you decide, don’t feel bad. It is your decision. Don’t let other people tell you if you are doing right or wrong. Follow your inner voice. Good luck with that!!
guest
Sounds like you have an amazing doc!! Delivering any baby breech is unheard-of around these parts. I would totally do breech delivery if you have the option– it would save you from having to recover from abdominal surgery!
pear / 1861 posts
C-section. My LO ended up breech and I ended up having an emergency C-section. It wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be. The worst part was laughing!