I related in a prior post how I set the stage for potty training my two-year-old twinbling girls. In this follow-on post, I outline our experience from the day the diapers were pulled off and onward. As a reminder, we used the Oh Crap! Potty Training Method.
With multiples, potty training starts off a bit differently because you have to decide when to start if one child is “ready” and the other is not showing the signs. There are some twin parents who will train each child separately as they show interest, but I just couldn’t hop on that train. I wanted this done in one go. After all, hitting all developmental stages and milestones at the same time is both my favorite (and least favorite) thing about parenting multiples, and I didn’t want potty training to be any different. In the end, we began potty training when the girls were 26-27 months old. One child was extremely interested in the idea while the other couldn’t care less.
The day the diapers came off
We potty trained on a late July weekend and we completely cleared our calendars. We also ensured that we were 100% aligned with our nanny, who would be thrown in to the process on day three (a Monday). As soon as the girls went to bed on Friday night, we readied a few things. We rolled up all of the rugs in our common area, we brought out the potties and set them up in the main floor bathroom, and I drafted letters to the girls from one of the characters in the primary potty concept book that we relied on, Dexter the Underwear Pup. (For some context, this book’s main character is a big dog named Dexter who observes children (sort of like Santa) and sends them a special letter when he believes they are ready for the potty. It’s adorable in my opinion!) I also made sure that we had plenty of rags/towels on hand for messes, and I unloaded my local Target of pretty much their full Clorox wipes stock.
When the girls woke up the next morning, we sat them in their chairs for breakfast (with diapers on) and provided them with a normal breakfast and milk. We then told them it was a very special day – today they were going to learn how to use the potty! We explained that they got to stay inside all day with mommy and daddy and drink lots of juice and play, and learn how to use the potty. They were so pumped, and their excitement only grew when we showed them the potties, their letters from Dexter and handed over their first special juice and removed their pajamas and diapers.
I would say that most of the concept stuck with the child who was “ready” in that very first day. She both peed and pooped in the potty and although she had some accidents in the very beginning of the day, they were completely within my range of expectations for a new skill. As for the child who wasn’t ready, she was equally excited about the concept and latched on to peeing pretty quickly (but admittedly not as quickly as the “ready” child). However, it took her weeks and weeks to poop in the potty. She would wait until nap and then go in her diaper and we were worried that she would never do it. However, we stuck with it and she eventually got it maybe 4-6 weeks after we began training.
On the second day, we added clothing and returned fluids to normal but maintained the rest of the day as pretty much the same as the first. Per the book’s suggestion, the girls went commando for a long period of time – thinking back on it, it may have been as long as eight weeks. We had absolutely no problems with commando and I think it was helpful for the girls to fully feel what was going on when they had an accident.
By the third day, our nanny entered the picture and she took them on their first major outing. And from there, the girls returned to their normal activities, which now included no diapers. Of course they had accidents here and there, but again, nothing outside of expectations for a new skill.
Deviations from Oh Crap!
As I’ve mentioned, we used the Oh Crap! potty training method. For the most part, we followed the method to the letter. However, there were at least two areas where we deviated.
First, the Oh Crap! method advises to avoid associating any treats for the potty. The rationale about that made good sense to me and so I entered training believing that my girls should not be rewarded with stickers or candy for going potty. Well, this fell through within the first week! Our nanny kindly suggested a sticker chart to help our little girl who was less “ready” and it significantly improved our success with her. We also came to rely on a jelly bean treat (especially following The Regression, as outlined below). While positive treats have worked for us (and I sincerely doubt we would have survived The Regression without them), I do honestly worry about dialing them back at this point as the girls have now developed a strong association between the potty and treats. Any suggestions on this would be highly appreciated!
Audrey is checking out her first sticker on her reward chart.
Second, the Oh Crap! method eschews pull-ups. I was totally on board with this rationale as well when I read the book – the thinking was that introducing pull-ups will just prolong time in a diaper-type solution. But then I got a free sample of pull-ups (well played, Huggies, well played…). I used the pull-ups samples for a road trip with the girls and it was just so much easier to deal with pull-ups rather than a diaper when pulling over to a rest area to help the girls go potty. To be very clear, the girls have never used pull-ups during the day when we haven’t been traveling. But the ease of pull-ups has also led me to prefer them for nighttime use as well – nearly every night, the girls insist on using the potty right before I tuck them in. By this time, they are already in their nightly diaper. It is so much easier to take them potty and deal with a pull-up rather than a diaper with the annoying refastening of diaper tabs.
The Regression
Roughly one month after we began potty training, we made a big move from Chicago to Lexington, Kentucky. The girls’ lives were turned upside down within days – new house, new nanny – oh, and we had the genius idea of throwing them in to preschool for the first time as well. So many people had warned me about a potty training regression due to this big transition and they were absolutely right.
Within the first week of moving, both girls were having pee accidents at least once a day (which periodically happened in Chicago, but not daily). And then suddenly they both were having poop accidents nearly daily (this never happened in Chicago). They also started refusing to sit on the potty when requested, which they had not done previously.
Obviously, this regression was really, really frustrating. It felt as though everything had been completely undone. But I had been warned that this was coming, encouraged to power on, and so we did. Prior to the move, we had dialed back the rewards for the most part but after about a week of daily accidents in our new home, I re-introduced the rewards pretty hard. It was nice to have that added push of incentive to get things back on track and within a couple of weeks, we were back to our pre-move status. (But as mentioned before, I really don’t think this was a perfect solution because I’m now struggling with how to take those rewards away.)
Current status
It has now been about six months since we removed daytime diapers. I may be jinxing it, but I am comfortable claiming potty training success at this point. It has been over a month since the last accident, and was related to one of the girls being extremely distracted by a new toy.
Both girls tell us when they need to go potty, and they are self-initiating. We still assist with wiping and I’m assuming that will go on for a lot longer. We recently have taken away the Bjorn floor potties and insist on the girls using the large toilet (with a toddler seat overlay). That has been a huge win – no more wiping out messes from the Bjorn floor bowls!
Over the past two weeks, both girls have started to wake up from naps and nighttime dry. This was completely unexpected and probably the best surprise of my holiday season. We’ve risked it by pulling the naptime diapers and they haven’t woken up wet yet (although it’s only been a week so I’m a long ways from declaring victory…) I was contemplating full nighttime training in the new year but now I’m sort of just in awe that I did nothing and they are waking up each morning dry. I may have to formally night train in the future and I’m still mentally preparing for that, but I’m not going to change anything at the moment because it’s working.
Final reflections
Overall I’m satisfied with our potty training approach and outcome, but I want to recognize that this is a super easy conclusion for me to say now that we’ve crossed the hump and we’re solidly on the other side. I really wanted to write this post before all of the frustration of potty training faded from my memory, but I didn’t quite get to it soon enough. One of my biggest irritations going in to potty training was some of the comments and advice from family and friends with older children who are long past potty training that it “is not that bad” or “don’t worry – they practically potty train themselves” or otherwise make light of it. I refuse to be one of those people and so I will tell you that potty training was no joke for our family.
Maybe these other parents had a magical approach that didn’t cross my radar, or had children who are potty prodigies, but for me – potty training brought me to tears on more than one occasion. I generally found the potty to be way, way more disgusting than dealing with diapers (scraping and wiping out poop from those floor potties is not something I will soon forget). With multiples, it was definitely frustrating to be handling the potty needs of two toddlers and inevitably miss a signal from one while attending to the other. I also really didn’t recognize before we started how outings and getting out the door would be impacted – we generally insist on the girls trying to go potty before we leave the house but this can take soooooo long sometimes with two two-year-olds and my patience is tested constantly. Finally, I had heard people say that diapers are so much easier in a lot of ways and I didn’t fully understand that concept until we got rid of the diapers and we went about our normal outside-the-house activities. The first time I went to the grocery store with newly potty-trained toddlers and literally ran through the store pushing a huge double cart so that one of the girls could make it to the toilet while the other was wailing that we had to leave her beloved cracker aisle, I quickly appreciated the convenience factor of diapers. Like I said, this potty training stuff is no joke.
But fingers crossed, we’re on the other side now…
pomelo / 5621 posts
Potty training one is tough enough, I can’t imagine training two at the same time!
persimmon / 1390 posts
Oof, I can’t imagine training 2 at once—nice work! I relied really heavily on treats for my second (we used fruit snacks). With the first we only used them for a few days, but I found treats so helpful to keeping our second on track and then getting back on track after a few regressions. I feel like whatever you can find that works for that child, go with it!
guest
Thanks for being so real and detailed! Hoestly, I’ve always used pull-up’s as diapers 2+ because it’s just easier to change haha. Never actually associated them with potty training.
I didn’t really potty trained my first; she did it herself at 3.5 but I’m thinking her sister will be ready sooner. She is 24 months and I’m thinking to definitely try by summer.
guest
Great job! You did great! With my first, I did a similar three day method that you did. It totally worked with pee but he pooped in his pants for months after. We actually just started using a pull-up (I read the same thing you did that said don’t use them, but for me that wasn’t realistic). He continued to pee in the potty but the pull up kept me sane and not cleaning poopy underwear everyday. Then one day it just clicked and he decided he wanted to use the potty. Based on my experience with my son, we just let my daughter call the shots. At 2.5 she showed interest but then regressed and we went to pull-ups. Eventually she started pooping in the potty because she didn’t like the feel of poop in her pull up. Then this weekend at close to 3.5 she finally decided she wanted to wear underwear. She started wearing them and its been 5 days with no accidents yet. Potty training has easily been my least favorite part of parenting. Anyone who tells you it isn’t a big deal just forgets!
cantaloupe / 6730 posts
I did both of the deviations too! For the treats, I waited until pee was firmly established, let the treats run out one day and said “oh, I ran out, I’ll have to get more”. Then when I got more, I told her she was so good at peeing she didn’t need them, but that she could have one at the end of the day if their were no accidents. Worked well. For pull-ups, I used them at night for ages. I want to say that she refused them one day and I put them away. I can’t remember.
cherry / 247 posts
Can you elaborate just a little on how you got your second daughter to poop in the potty? We are dealing with a 2.5 yr old who is great at peeing on the potty, but won’t poop. When you say it just clicked one day… is there anything you did? We’re 2.5 weeks in and I feel like it will never happen! She seems perfectly content to poop in a pull up!
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
Yay!! The twimblings!!
As for rewards, we had to use them HEAVILY with our second because he was so resistant to potty training. I just slowly tried to phase them out. I used to give him about 10 m&ms for pooping on the potty (pooping was a HUGE deal for us), and then I’d scale it down to less and less until he was only getting maybe 1 and half the time I’d forget to give them to him and now he doesn’t expect them (it’s been 6 months since he poop trained).
As for those parents that say potty training is easy and kids do it themselves… I think that actually might be true, if you’re willing to wait for your kid to do it! My oldest was interested in potty training at 2.5 and it was super super easy because he was so on board and self-motivated. But my youngest was showing NO interest by the time he was 3, and based on Oh Crap, I felt like we needed to just DO IT. IT WAS A FIGHT!!! I eventually gave up on even poop training him because he was so resistant to it. And then at 3.5, he just started pooping on the potty all by himself and has been doing it ever since! I suspect if we had just waited until 3.5 to potty train him when he showed interest, it might’ve been just as easy as it was with our oldest at 2.5!
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
We used treats (1 m&m for pee and 2 for poop). Once she was really potty trained, I let her see the bag was running out and told her “when the bag is empty, no more m&ms for going potty, because that means you are all potty trained! Yay!” Surprisingly, it worked! However my younger one, now just turned 3, potty trained almost 4 months ago, was having trouble pooping and with constipation, and got resistant to pooping, so I brought the m&ms back to get her poop.
I agree- a newly potty trained kid is so much more difficult than diapers. I skipped the little potty seat because I didn’t want to deal with cleaning them out and luckily my kids were fine without. And I know where every bathroom in every store is.
blogger / apricot / 439 posts
@ALV91711: @Becky: @snowjewelz @Christine: Thank you all for the support and for sharing your experiences!
@Grace: I love the idea of reducing to one treat a day for no accidents – I’m going to try that as soon as our current stash of jellybeans runs out. Thanks for the tip!
@SteelerGirl: I’m sorry you’re having the same issue we had with the pooping in the pull-up. I think our daughter was scared of the unknown. It’s weird to me that she had no issue with peeing in the potty, but poop was too much. It’s probably not fair to say that one time it totally clicked for her, it was just a lot of putting her on the potty when she looked like she needed to poop. I definitely don’t have a magical solution. And it took her a really long time to go poop consistently in the potty. I thought it was going to go on forever, but then one day she just stopped doing it. I have zero clue how or why that happened. Jeez, I really wish I had better advice for you. I feel so unhelpful!
@Adira: I think you could be right about some kids doing it on their own! I’ve definitely read accounts like that. I guess I was just trying to say that that’s probably not the most likely result and if you struggle with potty training, you’re not alone!
@Foodnerd81: I like this tip a lot – we keep the treats in a clear zip-lock so I can definitely talk up how we’re running low and we’ll eventually be done. Thanks!
persimmon / 1390 posts
@Adira: Yup, I’m one of those parents you can love to hate because my girls were very easy to potty train and did it super young. I also know several people who had kids who basically did it on their own when they were older. There’s a little girl in my DDs daycare who wasn’t 2 yet and just decided she wanted to go on the potty like everyone else. So there are unicorns!
clementine / 830 posts
@Adira: that is a helpful perspective to hear–my DS (oldest) is turning 3 in a month and has just shown zero willingness to try the potty. i really haven’t wanted to force it because a fight with him that involves urine and feces honestly just sounds really terrible!! but starting to feel pressure that we need to get it done soon and have been wavering on my commitment to just wait until he’s more willing.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
@nwm: I mean, obviously I only have the experience from my two kids, but from talking to others, it does kind of feel like if you just WAIT until they take an interest, it really won’t be that bad. My oldest was interested early, so it worked out perfectly, but my youngest wasn’t interested at 3 and we really felt like we shouldn’t wait. There’s soooooo much pressure to potty train before 3 (and often daycares force you to do it), so most people probably do it before their kid is really ready or interested. I think if you have the ability to wait, it most likely will be easy when you do it (when mine finally decided to start pooping on the potty, I literally had to do NOTHING – he just started doing it). But a lot of parents don’t want to wait until 3.5 or 4 because there’s this fear that they might NEVER take an interest, and then you’ve got a strong-willed, independent 4 year old you have to fight with!
cantaloupe / 6751 posts
@nwm: we tried potty training our daughter when she was 2.5. She had absolutely no interest and it was a total fail – lots of tears and refusals to go. We backed off and decided
Not to approach it until she seemed ready. When she was a few months past age 3, she said one day she wanted to use the potty – and she seriously trained herself within 2-3 days. It was amazing and after that experience, I’ll wait until my son shows interest.
clementine / 830 posts
@pinkcupcake: that is very helpful feedback, thank you! you all are restoring my confidence in just doing what feels right for my son
in pretty much everything he’s developed late and then developed expertise immediately, so not sure why i would expect this to be any different (and also, fingers crossed the expertise thing holds true here)!
persimmon / 1064 posts
In regards to the treats…
We rely HEAVILY on the treats. After we are past the treat stage and don’t need to rely on it so much, we will let them go pick out a large(ish) toy as a “celebration” for being all done with diapers! Then every time they expect an M&M after going to the bathroom, I remind them…”no treat, because you got your toy instead, remember?!”
It has seem to do the trick with my dudes! Worth a shot
Congrats on potty training!
cherry / 247 posts
@Mrs. Starfish: that is actually very helpful! We have decided we can’t do anything to make our daughter poop on the potty and it’s driving me crazy. I have to trust that she will decide to one day, just like yours did. You have given me hope!
clementine / 795 posts
@Mrs. Starfish: thanks for this post! My son is 2.5 and is not showing interest yet but I’m hoping it happens soon! And I suspect we’ll have to rely heavily on treats when the time comes 🤣
@Foodnerd81: did you have one of those seats you put on top of the regular toilet seat and if so did you just carry it with you when you went out?
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
@starlitsky: we had one of the little seats you place on top for one bathroom, and the kind that attaches to the toilet seat on the other (like this:
Bemis 483SLOW Round NextStep White SLOW Closing Potty Seat https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0067OPAKI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_N78oCbSDS01ZW)
When we go in a public bathroom I just hold her up for balance (standing over her holding her up while she poops is really special). And often both my kids will end up touching the toilet seat which is pretty gross, but at least I can wash their hands really well, as opposed to a potty seat I’d have to carry around. Neither of my kids has really objected to it, so I’m just lucky with that I guess because I know some do.
clementine / 795 posts
@Foodnerd81: thanks!! we were thinking of getting one of those seats that attach to the toilet too but I always wondered what people do in public bathrooms! I don’t want to carry a seat around so I’m hoping my kid will let me hold him up too lol. We shall see!
blogger / persimmon / 1225 posts
I love your updates!
Potty training took 1.5 years for my oldest and that is why my youngest is almost 3 and we still haven’t started.
Totally used treats like crazy (and still do but trying to make it less and less). It was literally self preservation and the only thing that barely worked.
persimmon / 1281 posts
@nwm: I tried before my son was ready because I felt pressure from outside the home and it did not work at all. He just plain refused! I didn’t want to push it and traumatize him so we waited until we felt he was emotionally (and physically) ready. He JUST potty trained at almost 3.5. But let me tell you, it was super super easy. We had three pee accidents and zero poop accidents. Total!!! He was 100% trained in 2 days and night trained within a month (I say trained but he consistently woke up dry so we just switched to undies and it hasn’t been a problem. I did no night training at all!) I am in the ‘wait until they’re ready’ camp. It’s not worth the stress!!!