We have teeth!
Well, yes, technically “we” all have teeth. What I mean to say is Baby O finally has teeth! To be precise, she has her two front bottom teeth (they came in at the same time). It seems like we waited so long for them to come that I take great pride in her new little buds!
The new arrivals coincidentally sprung up around the same time as my bi-annual teeth cleaning. After my visit, the hygienist was putting together my goody bag and I asked if she could throw in a children’s toothbrush so I could start use it with Baby O to get her used to this ritual. She very excitedly said yes and then told me I needed to start giving her a fluoride supplement because the county we live in no longer puts fluoride the water. This never even occurred to me.
Then I did the thing I always do whenever any “mainstream” healthcare professional gives me advice. I question it. I don’t know when/how I’ve become so skeptical and cynical about these things, but admittedly I am. So I asked the hygienist why the county stopped putting fluoride in the water. She didn’t know. I asked her why fluoride is important. She said because it makes teeth stronger. I asked her what the risks were. She didn’t know. Then I asked the Village. The girls both said they were skeptical about fluoride but didn’t have a lot of concrete data.
So I decided to do some research.
Per the AskDrSears.com website, fluoride has been added to drinking water for almost fifty years. According to public health officials, fluoride supplementation ranks along with water purification and vaccines as one of the top public health measures of the 20th century. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the U.S. Public Health Department, and the American Dental Association have all recommended that from 6 months to 16 years children with growing teeth should receive fluoride supplements either through their diet or in the water they drink. It’s even recommended that for children living in areas that do not have fluoridated water, fluoride supplements (tablets, drops, or lozenges) should be taken.
The basic assertion is fluoride makes teeth stronger and therefore less susceptible to decay by entering the bloodstream and becoming incorporated in the tooth enamel before the teeth erupt. Fluoride applied topically (via toothpaste or by a dentist) also make teeth more resistant to decay and strengthens enamel.
Sounds good so far. What’s the downside?
As far as I can tell, the biggest issue is a condition called fluorosis. This is the over-exposure of fluoride, causing white spots or patches on the teeth, with more severe cases causing a brownish mottling and weakened enamel. Dental fluorosis is permanent, unsightly, and it means your child is ingesting more fluoride than is needed. The scariest part is there is mounting evidence that has linked high fluoride exposure during the first year of life with the development of dental fluorosis. But because the condition won’t be visible in the first year, it’s likely you won’t know whether your infant is being exposed to more fluoride than is recommended until later in life.
picture of fluorosis
On top of the unsightliness of fluorosis, there is the claim that fluoride is a highly toxic substance. According to fluoridealert.com, fluoride is more toxic than lead, but slightly less toxic than arsenic and has long been used in rodenticides and pesticides. Accidents involving over-ingestion of fluoridated dental products can cause serious poisoning incidents including death. The FDA now requires a poison warning be printed on all fluoride toothpaste sold in the US. Over-exposure to fluoride has also been linked to arthritis, brain effects, cancer, diabetes, kidney disease, liver disease, bone deformities, male infertility, and thyroid disease amongst others. A recent review in The Lancet describes fluoride as “an emerging neurotoxic substance.”
Now I am sufficiently freaked out. Is there a middle ground?
In an article from AskDrSears.com, the author explains that just the right amount of fluoride helps the teeth and too much harms the teeth. The trick really is to give your children just the right amount of fluoride. It is universally agreed that infants under the age of 6 months should not be given any fluoride (drops, tablets, toothpaste, fluorinated tap water). In a guideline published by the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry, they outline the daily fluoride supplementation schedule to be less less than 0.25mg of fluoride for infants from 6 months – 3 years. You can see the schedule here.
Here are some practical tips you can follow to be sure your child gets the right amount of fluoride:
- Call your local water department to determine if your water is fluoridated. If your child drinks several glasses of tap water per day and if the local water supply has a fluoride concentration of at least .3 parts per million, your child does not need fluoride supplements in the form of tablets or drops.
- If your child does not drink any or enough tap water to receive sufficient fluoride or if your local water is not fluoridated, you may want to consult with your doctor or dentist about giving your child fluoride supplements in accordance with AADP guidelines.
- Don’t use fluoride-containing dental products (toothpaste, mouthwash) with children under the age of two because they tend to swallow.
- If your child uses fluoride-containing toothpaste, use a pea-sized amount of toothpaste for children aged 2 through 5 years.
- If you feed your child formula, do not mix with fluoride-supplemented water.
- Breastfed babies do not need additional fluoride supplements.
this is Baby A, part of the Village, showing off her beautiful teeth! Baby O has yet to flash a smile showing off her chompers
After all is said and done, it’s still confusing. I think I’ve ended up somewhere in the middle ground, concluding I most likely will not supplement Baby O with flouride drops or tablets. The clincher here for me was that she is currently a breastfed baby and therefore is probably getting adequate amounts from me. I am not sure if I will supplement during the time after she stops breastfeeding but before she’s old enough to understand not to swallow fluoridated toothpaste. There will likely be a gap of 6 months – 1 year. Right now, I consider this a small risk, but I am not entirely certain.
Have you done any research on fluoride and do you give your little ones fluoride supplements?
grapefruit / 4669 posts
Umm so I have fluorosis on my 2 front teeth (and I’m super blessed because my teeth are white and the spots don’t show when I smile!) but my dentist has never been able to figure out why I have it. He said because I’m from a large city w/normal levels of fluoride in water, it’s unusual–a lot more common in people from rural areas. I learned the other day that my pediatrician had my mom feed me watered down (with tap water) apple juice in addition to breast milk/formula when I was a baby–somehow related to me being jaundiced as a newborn. So maybe that’s why my teeth are marked up, because apparently fluorosis happens to teeth before they come through the gums? I don’t know if that would affect adult teeth or just baby teeth. Anyway, you should do everything you can to prevent it! I can’t whiten my teeth because it makes the spots obvious; I just have to brush really well to keep stains away.
GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts
I have some spots on my two front teeth. I never knew what it was from. My dentist hasn’t ever said anything to me about. I have noticed sometimes it is more noticeable then other times. Super interesting it is from fluoride.
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Awesome post!! I am a dental hygienist myself and still find this scary…I have an 8 month old who has been exclusively breastfeed up until NOW. So, with me now giving her formula I’m freaking out on which water to give her in her bottles?! Did you come across any info on if refrigeration filters typically filter out fluoride?
GOLD / nectarine / 2884 posts
We are working on tooth number three around here….ugh! This is definitely not something I have thought about!
blogger / pomegranate / 3201 posts
Something to keep in mind for those who do have fluoridated tap water is that it goes into the food you cook with tap water, too. Liam doesn’t drink very much water (we give him filtered tap water), but he eats steamed veggies and fruit, so I know he’s getting enough and not too much.
@Lindsey: I’m pretty sure they do not filter out fluoride!
coffee bean / 36 posts
It is smart to be skeptical of mainstream advice-I always do my own research. I am one of those that developed “dental fluorosis” from childhood, although not as bad as pictured. My mom was giving me extra fluoride without realizing there was already too much in the water in NH. SO…I have spent my adult years trying to fix it with whiteners, buffing, you name it, but the only true solution are veneers, which are so costly. It isn’t bad enough for me to go to that expense. Long story short-continue to be careful and cautious.
GOLD / pear / 1845 posts
We don’t have fluoride in our water so our doctor said to just use toothpaste with fluoride for them. We just use a skim, and the baby eats it. It’s a confusing issue.
blogger / cherry / 247 posts
@Lindsey: i looked into this because my immediate thought was, oh we are fine, we drink from our filtered water from the fridge. but i found some sad results. i didn’t want to include in my original post because i didn’t want it to get too long and boring, but here is some information i found about filters:
Carbon-based filters such as Brita, Pur, and most refrigerator filters do not remove fluoride (although they do remove chlorine and contaminants such as lead and arsenic). Boiling water does not remove fluoride – in fact, it concentrates it! Freezing water does not remove fluoride.
An activated alumina filter, bone char carbon, and reverse osmosis systems are the three EPA recommended methods for removing fluoride from drinking water. Distillation also removes fluoride from water.
Consumer Reports and Consumers Digest Magazine are some of the best online resources for water purification reviews. Consumer Reports found that overall refrigerator in line filters do not work well at removing impurities. There are some filters they recommend for under-sink with a diversion that will feed the kitchen sink and refrigerator.
Bottled water can be tricky too. Don’t assume just because it’s bottled it’s fluoride or chemical free. Here’s a sampling of bottled water brands that are fluoride free: Apani Purifie, Aqua Panna, Arrowhead, Calistoga Spring, Crystal Geyser, Deer Park North, Deer Park South, Evian, Great Bear, Hinkley & Schmidt, Ice Mountain Keeper Springs, Loon Country Natural Spring, NARA International Himalayan Spring Ozarka, Penta, Perrier, Poland Spring Snow Valley Mountain and Sparkletts.
blogger / cherry / 247 posts
@mrs. superhero: it is a confusing issue! after all the research you can find yourself thinking about all the ways you use tap water and then worrying about all of the terrible things that can happen, making all kinds of fluoride-free plans! but then i think, wait, what about all the people out there who drink and cook with tap water and are just fine? plus…some fluoride is good! i think for me the issue really is about adding additional supplements to Baby O’s diet. i have opted against it because we use tap water in moderation. i can’t see myself going on an anti-fluoride ban nor can i see myself buying a fancy fluoride-free filter unless i need to buy a new filter for another reason.
so my anti-climatic conclusion is: keep doing what i’m doing, no changes necessary!
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So this got me to call my water supplier and they could not give me a yes or no on fluoridation nor a percentage….I looked up on http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/MWF/Index.asp and found that mine is NOT FLUORIDATED….crazy and unusual. So, now I’m thinking I should get water with low fluoride…I certainly think too much is bad, but I think some is important. What do those do who do not have fluoride in water. Oh and yes I did find out that filters in fridges do not reduce fluoride.
coconut / 8305 posts
We just had to make the fluoride decision this past week! I did look into it briefly and decided against it. Sadly we lost our pedi over it. =/ We definitely have fluoridated water where we live and we breastfeed. We actually all just went to fluoride free toothpaste!
Can I ask where you found the info about breastfeeding and not needing to supplement? I would LOVE to be able to forward that to our previous pedi and he’s pro-breastfeeding but giving fluoride starting at 6 mths is standard practice for their office. Had I known that bit about breastfeeding things may have gone better. =/
Thanks again for sharing! So glad to see all these aspects of parenting choice being talked about!
grapefruit / 4800 posts
I was really surprised when the pediatrician we were seeing gave us a prescription for fluoride at 6 months despite our water being fluoridated. I haven’t found any research supporting him saying it was necessary when LO drinks tap water so we didn’t fill it, but I’m not sure why he was giving us an unnecessary prescription either. The fluorosis of the teeth you can see but those changes also occur in bones. While I understand the benefits of fluoride LO gets plenty in our fluoridated water and later in toothpaste.
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Pediatricians who are up to date with the current research on water fluoridation are advising against its use.
See YouTube video, “A Pediatrician Speaks Out on Fluoridation”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iu9HzaVbWQ
grapefruit / 4120 posts
Our water is not fluoridated and we don’t give supplements. No one has told us to and the dentist told us there is fluoride in several products like tortillas. Random I know. Anyway my son gets fluoride treatments at the dentist’s every 6 months and that’s it. I do have lingering doubts, though. I lived in Portland for awhile before they decided (recently) to fluoridate and the dentist and hygienists always told me they could tell I was not from there because my teeth were so nice. I guess they saw a lot of yucky teeth they attributed to lack of fluoride.
blogger / cherry / 247 posts
@runsyellowlites: seriously? your pediatrician fired you because you refused to give a fluoride supplement? a little speechless. anyway, i originally got the information from askdrsears.com, specifically this article: http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/feeding-infants-toddlers/fluoride-supplements
i also found useful information about breastfeeding and fluoride supplementation here:
http://kellymom.com/nutrition/vitamins/vitamins/
although i have to say it isn’t clear about the timeframe. both articles say breastfed babies don’t need fluoride supplements, but then they don’t say for how long because both articles reference the dosage of fluoride supplements for infants over 6 months old.
coconut / 8305 posts
@Mrs. Scooter: It was that and me telling him that P just kept spitting out all the solids I was giving her. She’s low on the % and despite her still growing well (~1lb a month at 9 months) it wasn’t enough…. sigh. He said we were in the “like 1%” that didn’t want the fluoride and it was making things difficult for him. The town we live in has very few options and are very overly medicalized. I’ve actually been very anxious about calling the ONLY other pedi in town that MIGHT (idk yet) accept patients that don’t vax completely on schedule. All that was totally off track but THANKS for the info! I honestly can’t believe I didn’t think to check kellymom…. her site has basically been my breastfeeding bible since P was born! lol
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Be sure and read a recent report by Harvard School of Public Health.
“Impact of fluoride on neurological development in children”
“Fluoride seems to fit in with LEAD, MERCURY, and other POISONS that cause chemical brain drain,” Grandjean says. “The effect of each toxicant may seem small, but the combined damage on a population scale can be serious, especially because the brain power of the next generation is crucial to all of us.”
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/
Good luck simply trying to AVOID this poison. Its everywhere!
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Since water fluoridation doesn’t appear work, why do it? Isn’t it a waste of money? See information on PubMed…
On PubMed.gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9758426
“Caries frequency before and after discontinuation of water fluoridation in Kuopio, Finland”
“In spite of discontinued water fluoridation, no indication of an increasing trend of caries could be found in Kuopio. The mean numbers of fluoride varnish and sealant applications decreased sharply in both towns between 1992 and 1995. In spite of that caries declined.”
PMID: 9758426
On PubMed.gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11153562
“Patterns of dental caries following the cessation of water fluoridation” [Canada]
“The prevalence of caries (assessed in 5,927 children, grades 2, 3, 8, 9) decreased over time in the fluoridation-ended community while remaining unchanged in the fluoridated community.”
PMID: 11153562
On PubMed.gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10601780
“Caries prevalence after cessation of water fluoridation La Salud, Cuba”
“In the past, caries has usually increased after cessation of water fluoridation. More recently an opposite trend could be observed: following the cessation of drinking water fluoridation, in contrast to an expected rise in caries prevalence, DMFT and DMFS values remained at a low level for 6-9-year-olds and to decrease for 10/11-year-olds. In the 12/13-year-olds, there was a significant decrease.”
PMID: 10601780
On PubMed.gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11014515
“Decline of caries prevalence after the cessation of water fluoridation in the former East Germany”
“In contrast to the anticipated increase in dental caries following the cessation of water fluoridation in the cities Chemnitz and Plauen, a significant fall in caries prevalence was observed. This corresponded to the national caries decline and appears to be a new population-wide phenomenon. There is still no explanation for the pattern.”
PMID: 11014515
On PubMed.gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12244360
“…dental caries in 12-year-old children residing in cities with and without fluoridated water supply…” [São Paulo, Brazil]
“There was no statistically significant difference between DMFT in municipalities of the same size, regardless of the presence or absence of fluoride in the water supply… Prevalence of caries in the region was ‘high’, with a DMFT of 4.82, thus failing to reach the goals set for the year 2000.”
PMID: 12244360
On PubMed.gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18756850
“The fluoride content of drinking water and caries experience in 15-19 year old school children in Ibadan, Nigeria”
“955 students aged 15-19 years randomly selected from eleven secondary schools in Ibadan metropolis were examined for dental caries. The fluoride level of the different water sources was between 0.02 and 0.03 ppm. [only] Forty-four (4.6%) of the children had dental caries. In conclusion, both the fluoride level and caries prevalence were low.”
PMID: 18756850
On PubMed.gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17436973
“Prevalence and severity of dental caries in adolescents…” [Mexico]
“In an analysis of caries severity (DMFT > or = 4), both adolescents with very mild/mild and moderate/severe dental fluorosis have higher caries severity. Fluoride exposure (measured through fluorosis presence) does not appear to be reducing the caries prevalence (DMFT > 0) or caries severity (DMFT > or = 4) in these high-altitude communities.”
PMID: 17436973
On PubMed.gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10728978
“The effects of a break in water fluoridation [11 months] on the development of dental caries and fluorosis” [Durham, North Carolina]
“It was concluded that while the break had little effect on caries, dental fluorosis is sensitive to even small changes in fluoride exposure from drinking water, and this sensitivity is greater at 1 to 3 years of age than at 4 or 5 years.”
PMID: 10728978
On PubMed.gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9161076
“New evidence on fluoridation”
“A review of recent scientific literature reveals a consistent pattern of evidence– hip fractures, skeletal fluorosis, the effect of fluoride on bone structure, fluoride levels in bones and osteosarcomas– pointing to the existence of causal mechanisms by which fluoride damages bones. In addition, there is evidence, accepted by some eminent dental researchers… that there is negligible benefit from ingesting fluoride…”
PMID: 9161076
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And here are two MUST SEE videos on YouTube about fluoride:
“The Fluoride Deception in interview by Christopher Bryson”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly_QP4rGczo
“Dr. William Hirzy & EPA Union on Fluoridation”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViNNIwmzTzI
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We didn’t start using fluoride until this past year. My daughter got cavities and doesn’t drink a lot of milk or tap water (she’s 3.5) I would have had a hard time using fluoride earlier than 3 because I don’t know how I feel about her swallowing it. She uses both fluoride toothpaste (about a half a dime amount or less) and mouthwash (kids ver. nothing strong) and spits both out. We also switched her toothbrush to the vibrating kind as it helps her brush better. I also am very consistent about going after her and brushing her teeth myself to make sure they are clean.
I am glad you brought some of this to light for people debating this. We had talked extensively with her dentist about this and got massive amounts of paperwork on how to use it properly. She has another half yearly check up soon and I am hoping to see a big change in her teeth.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21616 posts
Thanks for this post!!! Living a natural lifestyle this has come up and we definitely try to avoid fluoride because I am of the belief that it is a toxin and not healthy or good for you at all!! I don’t know much concrete evidence on this so I appreciate this post too.
We have city water so I”m assuming it’s fluoridated?? My sister and my parents both bought Berkeys that distill the water so that they don’t drink the fluoride or chlorine in the water! I wish we could afford one… or have a place to put it!!
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
Just putting it out there, but fluorosis is not the only reason for white spots on the enamel, and it is in fact one of the rarer reasons.
http://www.mchoralhealth.org/HeadStart/FAQs/HSFAQ_2.html
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Why not teach people how to take care of their teeth instead of putting chemicals in their water and giving it to babies as a supplement. I am against giving fluoride to my kids and we do not have fluoridated water and none of us have had any cavities. I’d rather be safe than sorry.