After struggling with my first few days of breastfeeding, I realized that I needed help. Reading through my many pregnancy books, breastfeeding books, and copious websites just wasn’t cutting it. I was in so much pain and I could not fix it by myself. I rifled through the many brochures from the hospital that we had delivered at, then called and made an appointment to see a Lactation Consultant. I was so happy that I would finally get some help, but because Little Deer was born around Christmas, most places had limited holiday hours. They were able to get me in as soon as they could, but it wouldn’t be for a few days still. I knew I wouldn’t be able to last that long, so Mr. Deer and I tried to think of some other solutions.
Since our insurance is through the military, they’re very specific on what providers you can see. We knew that they would cover seeing a LC at our hospital, but that we would likely pay out-of-pocket if we saw somebody else. I think Mr. Deer and I both wanted to get help as quickly as possible, whether our insurance covered it or not (and hopefully we could send in a claim and possibly get reimbursed). We decided to call our doula and she quickly recommended a Lactation Consultant that lived close by to us. She had nothing but wonderful things to say about this LC, not to mention that she did home visits. The idea of not even needing to leave the house at that point sounded glorious.
After getting the LC’s phone number, we quickly gave her a call. When I think back to talking with her on the phone that day, I remember just feeling such a sense of relief. Even though nothing had changed in that moment, just knowing I was talking to someone who knew what they were doing and wanted to help me was so wonderful. As I recounted what our last few days had been like, I broke down in tears. She was very encouraging, and told me it would be ok and that I could do this. She then asked me lots of questions to try and figure out what was going on. Through her detailed questioning, she quickly determined that:
- My breasts were swollen from the pregnancy and the three liters of fluid I received while in the hospital.
- On top of being swollen I was also engorged from my milk coming in.
- Little Deer was likely not latching correctly, and the above points only made it harder for her.
She arrived at our front door carrying a tote with her supplies as well as an infant scale. While Mr. Deer held a snoozing Little Deer, the Lactation Consultant sat down on the couch with me and we talked more about what was going on. She had a pad of paper out and took notes throughout her visit. After we talked, she examined both breasts. As she had suspected, I was still swollen and super engorged. I also had open and raw wounds on my nipples. She asked if we had a breast pump and I said that we did, but I didn’t really know how to use it. She said pumping a little would help since my breasts were so full. She was pretty impressed by the amount of milk I had, and said that if I didn’t already have so much on my plate I should consider donating my milk (maybe the next time around!). She first showed me how to hand express some milk, then she showed me how to use our breast pump. She noted that the flanges that came with our pump were too small for my breasts, and quickly pulled some larger ones out of her bag. Once I was hooked up, she showed me what the various buttons did, how I should clean it, and even the in’s and out’s of storing breast milk. That was all so helpful!
After talking about pumping, she wanted to address my wounds. I had been using some nipple butter before and after nursing, but I just wasn’t having much luck with getting them to heal. Really it makes sense since LD was nursing every few hours, and she didn’t have a good latch. The LC said she was worried about them possibly getting infected, so allowing my nipples to heal would be really important. She wrote out a detailed plan for me (so nice to have it in writing when you’re that sleep-deprived!). To start, she wanted me to go on 3-4 days of “nipple rest.” I was to exclusively pump and bottle feed LD so that I could allow myself to heal. I initially balked at this. LD was barely a week old yet. I was worried about nipple confusion and the like, but she assured me that it was ok and that I needed to make myself a priority. If I wanted to nurse for many months to come, I needed to heal up and be well. She also included in the plan some salt-water soaks, lanolin, and wearing breast shells. Though not the most attractive things, wearing the breast shells would allow my nipples to not be pressed upon by my bra or clothes, and to get some airflow that would help with the healing. She also had some of those in her bag which was perfect.
The swelling and engorgement alone was enough to make it difficult for Little Deer to latch on properly, but the LC wanted to examine Little Deer and watch her nurse too. Right around the time that she was done examining me, LD woke up and quickly let us know she was hungry. Before allowing her to nurse, the LC looked in LD’s mouth, felt around, had her suck on her pinky, then moved her around to look at her head, neck, and back alignment. She said she thought LD might have a slight posterior tongue tie, but that it was subtle and often times hard to diagnose. Also, she seemed to have a preference for turning her head/neck to the right and her back was slightly curved that way. She let me know that sometimes this could lead to issues with nursing. She weighed LD on the scale (so we could see how much she was getting form nursing), then worked to get her to latch on.
Even with taking her on and off the breast several times, it was hard to get her to latch properly. Even if you waited until she opened really wide, she still somehow managed to slip down and get a very shallow latch. Besides the pain, the tell-tale sign that something was wrong was that whenever we were done nursing, my nipple always looked like a smashed tube of lipstick (lovely visual huh?). This was often indicative of a baby with a poster tongue tie. She had me pull out my nipple shields (I had several different kinds from the hospital) and showed me which one she thought were best as well as some tricks to getting them to stay on.
After it was all said and done (she had been there probably over an hour by this point) she weighed LD to make sure she had taken in enough milk. Fortunately throughout our breastfeeding challenges, her trouble with latching never prohibited her from getting the milk she needed. I am still very grateful for that. Once she was weighed, bundled up, happy and fed, the LC sat down with us to go over everything we had talked about:
- We reviewed the protocol for my nipple rest and pumping schedule, as well as how I would store my breast milk and feed LD with a bottle.
- She went over the steps I would take to facilitate wound healing including the salt water soaks, lanolin, and wearing the breast shells.
- She wanted us to make an appointment at the Seattle Breastfeeding Medicine clinic to get LD checked out by a physician who specialized in breastfeeding issues so we could address her possible tongue-tie and body alignment.
- She talked about our plan for after the nipple rest. She was hopeful I would be less swollen by then and that it might be easier for LD to latch, but if not she wanted us to go ahead and use the nipple shields.
It was such a great visit, and I honestly don’t know that I could have made it through the breastfeeding experience if it weren’t for meeting with this Lactation Consultant. Her ability to quickly come over to our house, thoroughly examine both LD and I, and then write up a detailed plan… It was beyond awesome. She also encouraged me to call or text her if I had any questions. The entire visit ended up being $150, but she deducted $25 for us being a military family which was very sweet, so the total came to $125. Though she emailed us an invoice that we were able to send in to our insurance company, I would happily pay it all again in a heartbeat. It was so worth it.
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In my next post I’ll talk about how actually implementing our breastfeeding plan went, and where we went from there. This was by no means the end of the challenges we faced, but we were finally heading in the right direction.
Did you see a Lactation Consultant? What was your experience like?
Mrs. Deer’s Breastfeeding Series part 2 of 6
1. Breastfeeding - The First Few Days by Mrs. Deer2. Breastfeeding - Seeing a Lactation Consultant by Mrs. Deer
3. Breastfeeding - Our Essentials by Mrs. Deer
4. Breastfeeding - At One Year by Mrs. Deer
5. Weaning at 18 months by Mrs. Deer
6. When Breastfeeding Isn't Working by Mrs. Deer
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Congrats on your sweet little bundle of joy! I had the exact same thing happen to me so I feel your pain! Mine got all bloody and cracked and after pumping for three weeks the engorgement and infection killed my supply. My LC was great and even though they prompt bf it is so true that it doesn’t matter how the baby gets their milk all that matters in the end is that they are healthy. So many women put pressure on each other that bf is the only way when someone women can’t for whatever reason. So, don’t beat yourself up and in the end you will know what is best for you and the baby. I hope things continue to go well for you!
pomegranate / 3113 posts
I had a very similar experience. A couple days in, we were having trouble, as LO was jaundiced and wouldn’t wake for feedings the first few days we were home, and then wouldn’t latch at all on the right boob. I couldn’t get her into the right position on either boob so we were both uncomfortable, and I was an emotional, engorged mess. I called the free breastfeeding help hotline our instructor from BFing class had told us about (for Seattle mamas, it’s run by Beyond Birth Seattle — if you’re in need of help, look them up at beyondbirthseattle.com!) and the LC gave me some tips. They helped, but I still felt like things weren’t right so the next day I called back and scheduled a home visit. The LC came the following day and was so helpful. We really didn’t need to change THAT much, but getting correctly positioned and latched and knowing she was drinking enough gave me the confidence I needed to keep going.
A month in, I’m still dealing with an oversupply that makes the first few minutes of nursing each boob pretty upsetting for LO (either she chokes from the hard letdown or gets hangry while I try to express enough for her to be able to eat comfortably) but I was able to call my LC and get some more tips for handling it. The organization also runs a drop-in support group once a week where you can get tips from an LC and other mamas — I’m probably going to take advantage of it at some point!
blogger / pomegranate / 3491 posts
Sounds like perfect timing for some wonderful advice. As I look back, I would have really benefitted from a visit like this. Glad it all worked out so well!
pear / 1799 posts
Thank you so much for sharing!! I just had a baby two days ago, and we are in the “I have no idea what I’m doing” phase. We made an appointment with a lactation consultant for tomorrow afternoon and I cannot wait. Thank you again … So great to hear that there’s hope for our breastfeeding journey.
blogger / persimmon / 1231 posts
@PurplePeony: glad you’re still going strong and utilizing your resources! I hadn’t heard of beyond birth when we were in Seattle, sounds great though. I’m going to talk more about it in a later post, but with oversupply and a overactive let-down we really struggled too. Can’t believe it’s been almost 13 months now. Keep up the good work!
@Mrs. Confetti: thanks! Me too
@Vegmama: It can be so challenging and confusing in the beginning. Like everyone says, it does get easier. But sometimes we just need a little help, and LC’s are awesome! I hope your appointment goes well!
@Heidi: I should have mentioned that this is all retrospective…my LO just turned a year old!
So glad you had a good LC encounter too!
grape / 78 posts
I had an LC come visit the day after lo was born because I immediately started getting blisters on my nipples. It was excruciating. She saw that lo had a tongue tie that was extremely prominent and told us that we should get it clipped if breastfeeding did not improve. We got it clipped the next day because my nipples were ravaged. Unfortunately though the clipping did not improve his latch. My breasts were so engorged at that point, lo couldn’t eat well. I saw the LC at her office the next week after attempting to pump and failing miserably. She gave me the breast shells and told me to apply fresh breastmilk to my nipples instead of lanolin (healed like a dream by the way). She also gave me a breast shield and told me to pump in between every feeding to make sure I was stimulation enough let down. The only bad part was that she expected me to wean off the shield over the span of two or three days. When I tried to breastfeed without the shield it was still horribly painful. At that point I just listened to myself and wore the shield until lo was around 7 weeks old. At that point he was able to use his tongue better and his mouth was a little bigger. Now here we are at 6 months and breastfeeding is what I had always imagined: relaxing and uncomplicated.
Thank you for sharing your story!!
cherry / 224 posts
Thank you for sharing. I had problems breastfeeding my son and in the end, things just did not work out as I had wanted to.
However, during the process of trying to get my son to breastfeed, I did visit a LC at the hospital and went to La Leche League group meeting. I learned so much from the LLL meeting that I had wished I knew about them sooner ( I would had gone to their meetings while pregnant). They have local chapters throughout the states. I would definitely look into a local LLL group if you plan to breastfeed as they are a great resource.
GOLD / apricot / 341 posts
We spent 5 days at the hospital (in Atlanta) after our first was born, and I asked to see every lactation consultant that was working during that time. I found that they all had different tips and tricks. One of them in particular was amazing and both my husband and I felt that the info we got from her really changed the course of the next several months for us. She helped to give us a great start on our breastfeeding journey. With our second child we only saw one lactation consultant a few days after the birth, but I was again surprised that she had some great advice to give that I hadn’t heard before that really helped with this baby.
My husband and I also attended a full day of “breastfeeding school” at the hospital before the birth of our first child and I think that was a really good thing. It was great to get my husband involved and invested even before the birth. He understood how important it was going to be and also how challenging it could be, not to mention that he had a good memory for the mechanics of breastfeeding that was quite helpful as we got the hang of it in the beginning…
squash / 13764 posts
This literally sounds EXACTLY like my experience, down to the tongue tied baby, the open wounds, and the “nipple rest”. Our problems were greatly decreased by getting my LO’s tongue tie clipped, and meeting with a different, fantastic LC. We were able to get through those awful first few months and we’re still nursing at almost 15 months!
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
I saw an LC multiple times in the hospital, but I didn’t find them very helpful. I think nursing on the hospital bed with all the pillows just wasn’t ideal because I couldn’t figure out how to make it work once I got home. At six weeks, I was able to throw in the breastfeeding towel when I finally decided I’d try seeing an LC again. This time, I brought my boppy and fed Xander on a couch, so it was a similar experience to how I nurse at home. It was soooooooooo much better and the LC was so helpful to me, showing me exactly what to look for in Xander’s latch and how to ensure it was deep enough. I’m so grateful for that one visit because after that, our nursing relationship improved 1000%!!
cherry / 132 posts
Thanks so much for you post just what i needed to hear. I’ve been dealing with a jaundiced baby and what i think are production issues. My son is a week old and i have had to breast feed, pump, and supplement with formula due to his jaundice and low weight. after reading this I’m going to go ahead and make an appointment with an LC today.
blogger / persimmon / 1231 posts
@Mamadee: We eventually got her tongue tie clipped too with little success. And the nipple shields… going to talk more about it but we are still using them! Sounds so crazy but we’re both so used to it now that it’s fine.
@VanillaBean: I tried to hard to make it to some LLL meetings in our area and every time something came up. I’ve heard so many good things about them! I definitely want to utilize their support when we have another baby.
@Mini Piccolini: That’s awesome you got to see so many LC’s! I was so sad that there were none on the weekend when we delivered. I had been counting on their help! And I love that you guys went to a breastfeeding class and your husband was on board.
@hilsy85: good for you guys! 15 months is awesome. Going to write more about our experience with getting her tongue tie clipped (unfortunately it didn’t help).
@Suzimo: Keep it up mama! I hope your appointment goes well!!