My oldest daughter nursed until age five. My youngest is still nursing at age one. If she nurses as long as my oldest did, I will have been nursing for a solid decade with no interruptions. This wasn’t my plan. I’m loving every minute of it.
Anyone who has nursed a child or infant can tell you that nursing is often about much more than nutrition. It is a way to connect, to be present, to soothe. In infancy it completely meets a baby’s need for nourishment. But what about for an older child? What about a two year old? A five year old? Clearly the older child is most likely getting the bulk of their nourishment somewhere else. They are eating solid foods and daily gaining skill and developing their tastebuds.
So if nursing the older infant and child isn’t about nutrition, why did I choose to do it? Well, for me it was partly because I could (after having struggled with supply issues), partly because the reading I did pointed to continued health and social benefits, and partly because it was a facet of our relationship that was mutually enjoyable. Nursing is a relationship. Just like any other relationship, it takes two. Also, like any other relationship, if one party just isn’t that into it anymore it might well be time to re-evaluate. But you didn’t need me to tell you that. I checked my feelings about nursing at many points along the road, and was often surprised to find that I was happy to just keep on.
Our nursing story began in infancy, as most do. Before E. was born I attended classes and read books. I contacted my local breastfeeding support group. I felt prepared and excited. My mom nursed my little brother until he was a little over a year old, and it was an experience that she really enjoyed. I was looking forward to following in her footsteps and nursing my own children.
I was surprised and upset when my supply wasn’t adequate. My reading and preparation didn’t really prepare me the way I thought it would. On day two home from the hospital E. went all night without wetting a diaper. I suspected dehydration. The doctor on call confirmed my suspicions; I would need to start supplementing. I was sad, but also determined. I wanted to continue to breastfeed. Those first months were tough. The endless rounds of bottles/nursing/pumping and nursing/bottles/pumping exhausted me and made me question what on earth I thought I was doing. When friends and even sometimes strangers urged me to quit (because, yes, I admit that I may have complained) I gritted my teeth, steeled my resolve, plugged in the pump, and kept right on.
This triumvirate of pump, bottles, and breast followed us for the entirety of E’s first year. When she turned one it followed us a little longer. E was not a fan of solids. She liked yogurt. That was about it. It seemed wise to continue both the nursing and supplementation, at least for a while.
I second guessed myself all the time. It was hard to trust my supply, which had proved over and over that it was quite modest at best. One day I just did it; I just fed her, let her eat what she would eat, and we nursed. I felt euphoric when no one died and the world didn’t end. I felt so good that now I had enough, and the euphoria, I’m sure, coasted me right through to the beginning of her second year. I was finally experiencing the sort of casual, easy style of nursing that I had so looked forward to. For me, nursing a child during toddlerhood was fantastic. I wasn’t worried about how much she was getting. I wasn’t worried about how often. I wasn’t worried about leaking all over my clothes in public. Not about mastitis or clogged ducts… when she wanted it, it was there, and when she didn’t? Well, she was growing and we were having fun. It was like a belated nursing honeymoon.
Around age two I started doing some reading. I would say as an extended nurser I’ve received far more positive comments and interactions than negative, but I wanted to know more about what I was choosing to do before I committed. I was well aware that I was soon to be venturing further and further from cultural norms, and when that happens I like facts. My research indicated that there was nothing wrong with continuing to nurse. I felt there might even be some potential benefits for my daughter.
When she got older, it seemed a shame to stop. She was still enjoying nursing, and so was I. It was a way to connect and re-affirm the love we had for one another in a very simple way. Nursing was food, it was comfort, it was “good morning, I’m so glad to see you,” and “I’m not too busy for a quick snuggle right now.” It was “good night, I love you,” and “don’t cry, it’ll be alright.” We said so much during those times, not even using words. How could I abandon this age-old language that spoke so well?
So when she got to be 3? 4? 5? She was still my baby. By then I had done lots of reading and decided that I wanted her to be able to choose for herself when to wean. Was I scared when she told me she’d still be stopping by to nurse after she was married? Sure, a little. But I also knew that the statistics spoke loudly, and that the likelihood of that was almost none.
When I was pregnant again, she told me that my milk had stopped, but that she wanted to nurse anyway. I told her that it was okay. She could nurse until she discovered she didn’t need to. The closer it came to being time for baby to be born, the more she seemed interested in separating herself from the baby. In being big. Grown up. She decided she wanted to wean, so she stopped nursing. Then she would have a bad dream, and would nurse again. I was mentally preparing myself to tandem nurse, and talking often with friends who had done it themselves.
This went on for several months. I remember reading in all of my research that when you allow a child to self-wean, it is very easy to forget the very last time because the transition is so gentle and silent. One day they nurse at bedtime, and that is the last time. It passes without fanfare or ceremony and becomes another part of childhood outgrown. Determined not to miss it, I tried to catalog every nursing session as a potential last. In the end, I can’t pinpoint the exact day or time. It was as unobtrusive as the way she outgrows her clothes; the way they one day fit, and the next she seems to be all exposed ankles and wrists, and you want to blame the dryer but know you can’t. She had grown. It was just as wonderful and poignant as I had always thought it would be.
Weaning part 4 of 13
1. A slow wean by mrs. tictactoe2. My Breastfeeding Adventure by Mrs. Tea
3. The End of an Era: My Decision to Wean by Mrs. Confetti
4. Nursing Beyond the Second Year by Mrs. Twine
5. Our Adventures in Weaning by Mrs. Train
6. Weaning. by Mrs. Makeup
7. Weaning: Our journey by Mrs. Yoyo
8. Smile because it happened... by Mrs. Pen
9. Why I Want to Wean... and Why I Don't Want to Wean by Mrs. Bee
10. Adventures in Weaning by Mrs. Bee
11. Olive is Weaned. by Mrs. Bee
12. Weaning at Two by Mrs. Stroller
13. Weaning at 18 months by Mrs. Deer
honeydew / 7444 posts
What a beautiful post. I also find that it’s now at 11.5 months that i’m going through that post honeymoon nursing phase! I have a feeling that it’s going to be a while before she weans. Since she’s not much of a cuddler, it’s the only time we have to connect and i find that she’s so much more happy after a nursing session.
hostess / wonderful honeydew / 32460 posts
What a beautiful post.
I’m currently tandem nursing my 2 year 5 day old and 3.5 month old..
My oldest doesn’t seem to want to wean yet and only asks to nurse first thing in the am usually and right before bedtime.
Curious to see how long this nursing journey will last for the 3 of us.
Thanks for sharing your story
pomelo / 5178 posts
I agree, this was such a beautiful and well-written post! Thank you for sharing!
hostess / wonderful persimmon / 25556 posts
Thank you for sharing. I actually teared up at the end when you said she told you your milk stopped but she wanted to nurse anyways. I love that.
blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts
What a beautifully written post – I loved your last paragraph.
papaya / 10560 posts
fantastic post! it is so true the connection that nursing brings. i think of the day i might have to stop and it brings tears to my eyes!
squash / 13764 posts
This is so beautifully written, and I love the sentiment behind it! I also totally agree with nursing being a relationship that needs to work for both parties.
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
Terrific! I feel like the path you took was so similar to ours– from the tough start to the belated nursing honeymoon and the poor toddler eater.
I think prolonged nursing helped us worry less about our daughter being tiny and a picky eater and provided a great connection too.
I also can’t tell you the exact last day that she nursed, but I can tell you that it was a smooth transition.
persimmon / 1472 posts
This post was so sweet. Im still nursing my almost 14 month old and plan to continue until she self weans. I do get a lot of questioning on why I am still nursing and a lot of people are surprised. Not necessarily negative comments but a lot of curiosity and shock that we are still at it. DD only nurses first thing in the morning and before bed as well, and its “our time”. She snuggles up and gently wakes up in the morning. I chat with her and make her smile, and sometimes get her to chuckle which puts the biggest smile on my face. What better way to start a day! At night we wind down together – just the two of us as she drifts into dream land. I hope it’s a seamless transition for us too as I think I will miss it more than she – it’s just such a sweet and personal moment.
pomelo / 5073 posts
This is a very well written post. Thank you for this.
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As a childcare professional (daycare, babysitting, etc); I have had some problems with long-term nursers.
They thought it was ok to pull down my top, touch/pat/bang on my chest, and/or talk openly about my breasts with other children.
I trust that my experience isn’t what happens all the time, but it happened enough that it forever turned me off of the possibility of long-term nursing.
Hopefully you draw more appropriate boundaries, and clarify expectations regarding other caregivers. The parents of my students didn’t.
cherry / 141 posts
This is a lovely post. I am coming close to a year of breastfeeding. I am really interested in letting our daughter decide when she is ready to wean. It feels very natural to do so. Thank you for your words.
blogger / nectarine / 2608 posts
@Jessica; I just wanted to respond because boundaries and respect are a big issue in general, not just to do with breastfeeding. I would say that overall, extended-nursed children feel that breasts are maybe not as off-limits because of their experiences nursing. That being said, I did make sure that my oldest was aware that any touching of another person’s body needed to be done with that person’s consent, and that other than me, breasts were private, and parts of someone’s body that needed to be respected. I suppose that many extended nursers perhaps don’t think about the fact that lack of boundaries might be a potential side effect of prolonged nursing. Thanks for bringing up an interesting point, because I’m fairly confident that most people who nurse beyond a year don’t intend or want that misunderstanding of others’ boundaries.
Everyone else, thanks also for the kind words. All of you have made me just swoon a little with your sweet stories and I wish you a beautiful journey with your children.
blogger / apricot / 424 posts
What a great post! I have always been curious about nursing beyond a year but have never known anyone that had done it. I am so glad things went well for you and that you found a place of peace with nursing. In the later months of nursing my daughter I also found this place and missed it as I read your words. What an amazing comforting thing nursing can be for all involved!
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
@jessica: that isn’t a problem with breast feeding, that’s a problem of inappropriate boundaries. My daughter knew exactly where her breast milk came from and didn’t ever for one minute think that milk came from anywhere else than her mom. In fact, I think because it strengthens the mother child bond, I’d say that it actually made separation hard for her… And as a daycare provider, I thought that would be your complaint. Our little one had a lot of problems relaxing in the care of anyone else. She’d also say things like “That’s X’s booby. This is my booby.”
cantaloupe / 6751 posts
Beautiful, beautiful post. I teared up several times and had goosebumps towards the end. Like you, I had a very difficult start to nursing. I don’t know why I was so stubborn, but I was dead set on nursing her despite all the challenges and just focused on meeting one mini goal at a time (one week, one month, three months, six months, a year). Somehow we made it to now – 13 months – and I absolutely love and treasure our nursing relationship. Yeah there are times when I complain (usually the times she decides that she wants to nurse like 15X day and my nipples are beyond sore), but for the most part, I’m so thankful that we got so far and we have such a lovely relationship. I love how she crawls into my lap and points at my chest. I love her big goofy grin when I pull out the nursing cover. I love how her little world can be falling apart, but one minute with mommy and all is right with her world again. I know it’s gonna be so bittersweet when we give this up.
Thank you so much for sharing. This has been one of my favorite HB blog posts so far
clementine / 958 posts
This is a lovely post, beautifully written. Thank you for sharing!
pomelo / 5000 posts
So sweet and beautifully written. Thank you for sharing your story!
persimmon / 1295 posts
Thank you for this beautiful post. I read it when I woke up this morning and immediately wanted to nurse my daughter (20 months). I always thought (before I had a baby) that I would stop when the child could “ask for it.” Who would have thought that I would change my mind so much. Now when she asks for “mommy milk” my heart melts!!
bananas / 9357 posts
Beautiful post! Thank you so much for this!
I’ve EBF my son and he’s almost 6 months now and I hope to continue our breast feeding relationship as long as he’d like. I’ve only just recently opened up myself to the idea of extended breast feeding from hearing others experiences here, and I’ve decided it’s something I would like to do, as long as he wants to too of course.
I’m been feeling a little sad lately because he only seems to want to nurse and get back to playing. He used to love to just suckle, and we would cuddle for hours while he did. I wonder if this is just a phase for his age? I’m already missing all the snuggles and he’s only 5.5 months!
blogger / nectarine / 2608 posts
@MrsKC; it probably is a phase, but what nursing looks and feels like will change many times before you are done, most likely. Some of it will depend on his moods and feelings, of course. It sounds like right now he is just feeling so secure in his relationship with you that he is able to use nursing for food and to quickly touch base and then he’s ready for the next fun thing. It’s hard not to miss the snuggle time, but believe me when I say he is paying you a huge compliment! Those snuggles will come back.
bananas / 9357 posts
@Monkula: Thank you for your reply! That makes me feel better.
pear / 1570 posts
Such a gorgeous story. I got a little teary at the end – it is just so sweet.
It is women like you that encourage me to be more ‘ok’ with extended breastfeeding. Thank you so much for sharing.
GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts
Beautiful! As someone who has to supplement and deal with all the pumping and bottles and formula, it was so nice to read that there is a future for us that is mutually enjoyable and beneficial, without all the extra “stuff” in the way.
blogger / nectarine / 2608 posts
@Highwire; There is TOTALLY a wonderful future ahead! And if you have a baby who likes table food it may come sooner than you think. However we feed our babies, it is our love and connection that separates mere feeding from nourishing. Keep on keeping on, you are doing great.
apricot / 464 posts
Thank you for sharing. It’s great to see a very normal picture of extended breastfeeding.
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I guess I’m the only one willing to say anything negative about extended nursing…which will probably get some back lash, but I’m speaking out because I’m surprised so many of you think it’s a great thing. I feel that extended nursing says more about what the mother needs than what the child does. I’ve read studies that most moms who breast feed longer than “normal” typically have attachment issues relating to their own childhood, and are trying to fill a void. Clearly there are worse things you can do as a parent. But I do think that it’s important to parent based on what’s best for the child, and I happen to think breast feeding them until they are 3, 4, 5 is slightly dysfunctional parenting. There, I said it. Now, what works for me doesn’t work for everyone and I understand that. But I will not be nursing my child into their toddler years, and I will love my child as much as the poster loves hers, and my child will feel just as nurtured and cared for. (Studies show that to be the case, btw…there is NO difference in how loved/nurtured a child feels regardless of how long it was breastfed). Which further supports the thinking that it’s about something the mom needs more than the child.
blogger / nectarine / 2608 posts
@S.E. I am genuinely interested in the studies you found. Could you share where they are? I searched. I ran across this: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/05/17/behind-the-time-cover-most-human-societies-dont-get-our-breastfeeding-hang-up/ I do definitely agree with your assertion that love and nurturing is not at all dependent on a feeding method.
cherry / 158 posts
@S.E. Could you share those studies? I have never seen a peer reviewed study to that effect.
grapefruit / 4049 posts
@Monkula: beautifully and boldly written post… thank you times a million for sharing your experience! I admire your nursing journey! I am currently bf’ing my 21-month old and am waiting til she self-weans. Our ped is fine with it, but our pediatric dentist has voiced that night nursing could give her cavities. I’ve done some research and found arguments both for and against nursing toddlers to sleep (in regards to dental health). What’s your stance on it, if any? Did you nurse then brush afterwards? Would love to hear your opinion or what worked for you and your DD in keeping her teeth healthy!
blogger / nectarine / 2608 posts
@SAHM0811; What a thoughtful (not to mention thought-provoking!) question. I will let my honesty prevail and admit that I haven’t given it as much thought as I probably ought to have. I think it’s excellent that you are already having a good dialogue with your daughter’s dentist regarding nursing. I never really brought it up. I did some digging, and it seems that mom’s proclivity (or lack of) for cavities does some excellent predicting of whether an infant will have the oral flora conducive to caries (tooth decay). So my daughters got lucky; I am not prone to cavities and so did not pass along any bad flora (ah, makes me slightly re-think all those messy open-mouth kisses that my babes and I have shared). http://www.lalecheleague.org/nb/nbdental.html Here were some of the resources I located on the matter. With my oldest, we were pretty lax with dental hygiene until she was about three. She now has bi-annual tooth cleanings and has great teeth with no decay. With Lowly, we are a little better, but I do not do any tooth cleaning after each nursing session; rather just once or twice a day or so with the rest of the family. I would do some more research, listen hard to your dentist’s counsel, and then make your own decision about how you want to handle tooth cleaning for your nursling. Please let ME know if you learn anything else of interest. This would be a great topic to share with others at some point.
grapefruit / 4049 posts
@Monkula: thank you for sharing that link. i read through some of the documents and they were very helpful. i was just astonished at my DD’s first dental checkup at 16 months when the dentist said bf’ing caused some tooth decay. gratefully though, no cavities, but she warned me about it and encouraged me to wean… however, i knew my baby was far from self-weaning. i spoke to another ped dentist and she said it’s not really breastmilk alone that causes the troubles, but breastmilk at night, in combination with solids, bad bacteria, and bad genes (defective tooth enamel)…. so after some more research, i decided to continue nursing but at the same time, be more strict about brushing…
we brush morning and night, and sometimes after lunch too. we have tooth wipes on hand for when out and about during the day. and we use a toothpaste with xylitol (which after fluoride is the next best line of defense against cavities). once she learns to spit effectively, we’ll switch to fluoride toothpaste. she has a follow-up next month, and i’m hoping our routine has worked to ward off any cavities. you are so blessed your girls don’t have any dental issues!
thanks for your reply again!
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The WHO recommends “Exclusive breastfeeding is recommended up to 6 months of age, with continued breastfeeding along with appropriate complementary foods up to two years of age or beyond”.
“The AAP recommends that babies be exclusively breastfed for about the first 6 months of life. Babies should continue to breastfeed for a year and for as long as is mutually desired by the mother and baby. Breastfeeding should be supported by your physician for as long as it is the right choice for you and your baby.”
The WHO has a stronger stance on breastfeeding encouraging mothers to breastfeed till their children are at least 2 which would mean they are toddlers. Both the AAP and the WHO though have no guidelines for when to stop and wean as long as solids are also being provided. While I personally wouldn’t choose to breastfeed till 5 years old I find the attack on mothering skills, and criticize and judge it as attachment issues just plain mean and uncalled for.
The mommy wars are awful and as a new mom I am often appalled by the behavior and cattiness of grown women who feel the need to criticize and put down women who are doing their best as mothers and really doing what works for them, their children, their lifestyles, their family, and their personal beliefs. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just learn from each other, listen to their experiences, and be supportive of mothers and women even if we wouldn’t make the same choices.
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@Thais; I do not think this thread represents mommy wars. Yes, there was one critical comment that probably could have been more thoughtfully worded, but other than that the conversation has been very civil and supportive.
Too often I think mommies “run” at the first sight of “mommy wars.” We shouldn’t shy away from controversial topics like feeding children, because if we do we will also end up avoiding thoughtful discussion of the various complicated aspects of such choices.
I wonder how veterans feel when we use the word “war” to describe primarily-online sharing of opinions.
@Mrs. Twine and @Mrs. Jacks; you’re right, it is a boundary issue and it doesn’t happen with all children. Like I said in my original comment, I trust that my experience isn’t what happens all the time. I brought it up because some parents aren’t as thoughtful as you, and don’t set up clear behavioral directions or warn childcare givers
pea / 15 posts
I remember this article in the Times and while it has more to do with attachment parenting in general, (which obviously includes extended breast feeding) it does support S.E.’s argument, though I’m not sure if this is what she was referring to. Watch the video, specifically. http://ideas.time.com/2012/05/10/parents-do-whats-right-for-them-not-for-the-kids/
I can not speak for or against extended breast feeding. I’ll be a new mom in August. I will say I’ll do what’s right for us regardless of what others’ choose for their families. It’s such a personal thing. And that’s why moms shouldn’t judge each other so harshly. I think we all want to do the best for our babies….and there are many paths we can take do accomplish that. Peace!
blogger / nectarine / 2608 posts
@Thais; Thanks for sharing the information. I appreciate your encouraging a positive tone when we speak with one another and consider parenting journeys different than our own. What I hope for is honesty. If someone is being truthful about their feelings and beliefs and thoughts, that shouldn’t hurt me. And I honestly don’t think anyone so far has been out of line in their comments in the sense of crossing over from honest to merely hurtful.
@Jessica; I agree that we all as human beings need to not shy away from hard truths or to needlessly protect one another from dialogue meant to inform, broaden, and challenge our ways of being and thinking, in this case, about motherhood. I definitely appreciated you sharing your perspective because I really don’t know that it is something extended nursers think to think about.
@Mrs. Peep; Thanks for sharing that link. What I got out of it is that most parenting is reactive. I will say that I feel that that statement is largely true. If a parent feels that something in his/her childhood was wrong or that a need was left unmet, he will try to rectify that unmet need or wrongdoing for his own children. The beauty of it is that it is something done out of a wonderful sense of love; who doesn’t want “the best” for his child? The problem is that it is inherently short-sighted. Obviously swinging the pendulum in the opposite direction is an incomplete answer at best.
blogger / nectarine / 2010 posts
This is so true for me right now – I feel like I just got to this point very recently: “For me, nursing a child during toddlerhood was fantastic. I wasn’t worried about how much she was getting. I wasn’t worried about how often. I wasn’t worried about leaking all over my clothes in public. Not about mastitis or clogged ducts… when she wanted it, it was there, and when she didn’t? Well, she was growing and we were having fun. It was like a belated nursing honeymoon.”
And I’m sitting here crying after reading this: ” It passes without fanfare or ceremony and becomes another part of childhood outgrown. Determined not to miss it, I tried to catalog every nursing session as a potential last. In the end, I can’t pinpoint the exact day or time. It was as unobtrusive as the way she outgrows her clothes; the way they one day fit, and the next she seems to be all exposed ankles and wrists, and you want to blame the dryer but know you can’t.”
Wonderful post, thank you.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21616 posts
I had bookmarked this post awhile ago to read and I’m so glad I went back to it. What an incredibly BEAUTIFUL and heartfelt post. I definitely teared up at this part:
“, it was comfort, it was “good morning, I’m so glad to see you,” and “I’m not too busy for a quick snuggle right now.” It was “good night, I love you,” and “don’t cry, it’ll be alright.” We said so much during those times, not even using words. How could I abandon this age-old language that spoke so well?”
My son is 15 months and I can feel him self-weaning. It’s emotional, because I wanted to go to at least 2 years. But like you said, my go was going as long as mutually desired and I see myself holding onto something he feels he doesn’t want/need anymore. It’s sad and hard because like your paragraph I mentioned above – those 5-10 minutes of breastfeeding is a thousand words and means so much to me. It’s hard to let go!
Thank you for a lovely post. I get excited about my breastfeeding relationship with my next child and hope I can go even longer, if mutually desired.
I really do love self-weaning. It has been gradual which has allowed us both time to process and get used to this new normal. I love how eloquen and poetic this post is. just beautiful
nectarine / 2458 posts
I just started to tear up at the end. I love the relationship I have with my son because of breastfeeding; I’m so afraid I’ll dry up (cuz I’m pregnant) and he’ll just want to stop :'(