I stumbled upon a rave review of a book, How to Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk.
I read the book in one night and it was so good that it fundamentally transformed my relationship with Charlie within 24 hours. There are so many nuggets of wisdom in this book that I thought it might be helpful to walk a few of them here.
Tip #1: Stop giving your kids advice
The authors (Adele Faber and Elaine Mazlish) talk a lot in the book about how you shouldn’t say “no” or give a lot of advice to your kids. That really scared me, because sometimes I feel like 95% of what I say to Charlie involves the word “no” followed by an explanation of what he should be doing instead (or advice on how he could be doing something better).
The book gives a few examples of how adults usually don’t like to hear advice right off the bat. As they put it:
When I’m upset or hurting, the last thing I want to hear is advice, philosophy, psychology or the other fellow’s point of view. That kind of talk only makes me feel worse than before … Most infuriating of all is to hear that I have no reason to feel what I’m feeling. My overriding reaction to most … responses is, “Oh forget it . . what’s the point of going on [with my story].”
But let someone really listen, let someone acknowledge my inner pain and give me a chance to talk more about what’s troubling me and I being to feel less upset, less confused, more able to cope with my feelings and my problem.
The process is no different for our children. They too can help themselves if they have a listening ear and an empathic response.
I work really hard to be empathic, but sometimes when Charlie is whining it can be hard. But I decided to take the book to heart and try it out with Charlie (Olive can’t talk yet).
The very next day, we went to the local grocery store to pick up some sandwiches for a picnic. Charlie saw a cupcake in the display case and asked for one. And by asked, I mean that he started saying “I want a cupcake!” over and over, and increasingly frantically.
I thought back to the book, which gave a four part process for helping kids with their feelings:
1. Listen with Full Attention
2. Acknowledge their feelings with a word – “Oh” … “Mmm” … “I see.”
3. Give their feelings a name.
4. Give them their wishes in fantasy
So I picked up Charlie in my arms, and looked at him in the eye. Our conversation went like this:
Charlie: I want a cupcake!!
Dad: You want a cupcake.
Charlie: Yes!
Dad: You really want that cupcake, huh.
Charlie: Yah. (sadly)
Dad: You want to eat it so badly but you can’t. That must be frustrating.
Charlie: (sadly) I want a cupcake.
I figured by this point, I had listened to him, acknowledged his feelings and given them a name (frustration). So I moved ahead into the fantasy part of the conversation, although I was pretty darn sure it would backfire.
Dad: How many cupcakes do you want?
Charlie: (brightens up as he realizes a cupcake may be in his future.) One!
Dad: Just one cupcake? How about two?
Charlie: No, one.
Dad: You don’t want two cupcakes?
Charlie: (thinks about it) Ok. Two cupcakes!
Dad: How about ten cupcakes?
Charlie: (confused) Ten?
Dad: Let’s count to ten and then you can tell me if you want ten cupcakes. (starts counting) One… two… three… (finishes counting to ten)
Charlie: (counting along with me, until we get to ten… getting increasingly excited the whole time)
Dad: Wow, TEN CUPCAKES! Mmmm… eating them would be SO delicious.
Charlie: (with huge excitement) Yeah!
Dad: Would you eat them slow and lick the frosting off… or would you just eat it fast and have it all at once?
Charlie: FAST!
Dad: You would just rip the top of the cupcake off, wouldn’t you?
Charlie: YAH!!
Dad: Wow, you sure ate that cupcake fast didn’t you!
Charlie: YAH!!! (looks satisfied, like he just ate a cupcake and possibly ten cupcakes.)
Dad: (in disbelief that this may have worked) Ok, let’s go see where Mommy is ok?
Charlie: Ok! (happily, with no mention of cupcakes)
I was pretty floored! Here’s how those conversations usually go, based on painful experience:
Charlie: I want a cupcake!!
Dad: Charlie, look at these yogurts that we got for you! (A feeble attempt at distraction)
Charlie: I want a cupcake!! (increasingly fervently)
Dad: Do you want to eat the yogurt now or later? (i.e. the yogurt distraction gambit is all I’ve got.)
Charlie: I want a cupcake!! Right now!
Dad: (setting firm boundaries) No.
Charlie: (crying, possibly melting down.) I WANT A CUPCAKE!!
Dad: No Charlie, you can’t have a cupcake now. You can have a snack when we get home. (etc. etc., basically a long explanation of why he can’t have what he wants, which usually ends with a meltdown but with Dad feeling good that he’s established firm boundaries.)
Basically my distraction techniques have been getting more elaborate, and Charlie’s been wising up to them. But wow, the fantasy technique really worked! I didn’t tell Charlie no, I didn’t give him an explanation or advice… I just acknowledged his feelings, named them, and gave him his wish in the form of a fantasy.
Seriously, I felt like Dad of the Year! Also, like I had been doing parenting “wrong” for most of Charlie’s toddler life.
In the next two days, I didn’t say no to Charlie once… instead, I listened to him like I had never listened to him before. Most of the time when he’s asking for things, he’s not actually asking for them. He just wants to communicate that he wants it… and that’s it. He only really gets frustrated when I don’t acknowledge his feelings.
Holy cow, it feels like Charlie’s love for me has grown so much since he knows that I’m truly listening to him. I asked him for a “best friend hug” today and he gave me the biggest tightest hug he’s ever given me in his life! (I’ve trained Charlie to do a bunch of things, and one of them is to hug me on demand… one of the perks of having raised dogs as a kid is the ability to train your kids to do tricks.)
This book has really helped me with parenting, and to be honest it’s helping my other relationships too (at work and at home). If your kids can talk (or will talk soon), I strongly recommend that you buy a copy asap!
*The cupcake Charlie is eating is not the cupcake from the story.
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3. My Pre-TTC Toolkit by Mrs. Blue
4. The Best Parenting Book I've Ever Read by Mr. Bee
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6. Deliberate Motherhood by Mrs. Hide and Seek
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4. Three Ways to say "no" to your kids by Mr. Bee
5. From Devil to Angel: "Tina's No" by mrs. wagon
6. What Shamu Taught Me About Happy Toddlers by Mr. Bee
7. The Best Parenting Book I've Ever Read by Mr. Bee
8. Cracking the code on toddler tantrums by Mrs. Jacks
9. What would Ellie do? Managing tantrums. by Mrs. Jacks
10. The Trenches of Toddler-Dom by Mrs. High Heels
11. The Nurtured Heart Approach: Disciplining for Greatness by Mrs. Twine
12. Diagnosing Tantrums and Behavioral Problems for 3-4 Year Olds by Mrs. Bee
nectarine / 2152 posts
Haha, my mom had a (much) earlier version of this book when I was growing up and I remember for whatever reason, reading it too (think I liked the cartoons or something)! Looks like it still holds true 20 years later!
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
I just favorited this and realize that this book may change my life. Must read right away! Thanks for sharing!
kiwi / 623 posts
Wow! That’s so great! I could totally picture myself trying to distract my LO with yogurt or something healthier. Haha. Go you!
grapefruit / 4400 posts
OMG I can’t believe the “wish” worked, either! I would have expected him to melt down after realizing he wasn’t getting 1, 2, or 10 cupcakes.
I wonder what people around you would have thought. “Look at this guy, teasing his kid with the thought of 10 cupcakes and then gives him none!”
hostess / wonderful honeydew / 32460 posts
This is awesome! Totally gonna read the book! Do you thiink I should? You did a pretty good job summarizing it for me…
grapefruit / 4006 posts
That technique sounds awesome! I have to admit, I cracked up at the end when you said “Ok, let’s go find mommy” and he said “OK!” with no mention of the cupcake. Will have to remember this book for later!
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
@chopsuey119: There are so many insights in the book that it’s definitely worth buying! I’ll be blogging more about some of the best tips too!
hostess / wonderful honeydew / 32460 posts
@mrbee: just ordered it!
pea / 20 posts
This is exactly the same technique laid out in “Happiest Toddler on the Block”. I found it worked like magic on my son too! Who knew?!
blogger / watermelon / 14218 posts
@Kasia: yes, so similar to the Happiest Toddler on the Block techniques! I love when a technique actually works in real life… it’s like magic!! Good job Mr. Bee!!
coconut / 8305 posts
Gosh I wonder if this will work for my 7 year old?!
@mrbee: Does the book give an age frame or just generalized parent-child relationship?
persimmon / 1255 posts
Just added this book to my wishlist to buy later
blogger / nectarine / 2687 posts
must. buy. now.
seriously, it sounds magical!!!
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
@runsyellowlites: I just checked and didn’t see an age range… but the book’s examples have plenty of kids in the same age range as your LO!
squash / 13764 posts
I love this book! I used it when I was doing play therapy with pre schoolers. Super straightforward and so sensible.
pea / 21 posts
That is such an awesome moment between the two of you! I love it! I had a similar one with my son the other day and he lit up the way you describe Charlie.
We had to give a birthday present to another boy at his party, and my son was pretty sad that he didn’t get a present. He wanted to unwrap it and everything. So I told him that he really must want a birthday present and that he wishes it was his birthday. “Yes” Then, I pretended to have a big box and told him it was his birthday present. I asked him what was inside, and he just got the happiest look on his face. He said, “Dump truck!”
I pretended to admire his imaginary birthday dump truck and he was so proud. Now it’s like his favorite game to pretend his birthday presents. It really is an amazing technique and it works!
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
@sushimama: Wow, that is amazing!! Thank you so much for sharing.
pomegranate / 3053 posts
Just added it to my Amazon shopping cart! Anything to learn more about how to better communicate with my toddler!
“I want …..” SUCH a common thing for a toddler to say. As many times as I tell him to “ask nicely” it always comes out as “I want …” I’m starting to sound like a broken recorder. And we totally do the negotiating as well. Me: “one more …” Nicholas: “two more!!” Ai ya ya ya…
Can’t wait to read this book.
GOLD / pomelo / 5167 posts
I don’t read books (though I should) but I might just break my bad habit with this one. Sounds amazing… and trust me both DH and I need to break the “NO”
coconut / 8305 posts
@mrbee: I’m sold! Definitely checking it out! =)
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Hey those photos totally made me think you ended up giving Charlie the cupcake!! Thanks for clarifying that it’s not
bananas / 9118 posts
@Kasia: @mrs. wagon: exactly, I just heard an interview with Dr. Karp on NPR discussing that, not something I would have ever thought of. Going to have to try this on my (adult) students too….
grape / 86 posts
omg I am getting the book too …..Mr. Bee, you (or Mrs. Bee) could be the next Oprah. You should start a Hellobee book club, ;p
GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts
bookmarking this for future. read this in entirety last night and am amazed by the differing results!
blogger / nectarine / 2010 posts
I am taking your advice and buying it right now. Maddox can’t speak, but like everything else, I’m sure I’m going blink and we’ll be at that stage
olive / 70 posts
I just bought the book. Can’t wait to read it. It sounds like just what I need when my daughter has her melt-down and I end up yelling at her.
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Two things.
1. I couldn’t buy this book fast enough
2. I want a cupcake now
cherry / 170 posts
I asked you this elsewhere but didn’t find the response anywhere. Did you really read this in one night? As in all of the worksheets too? Because I ordered this and paid for overnight shipping the moment someone suggested it to me a few months ago and en it came and I got to the first worksheet and I was so frustrated by the time needed that I gave up and it has been sitting collecting dust ever since.
Says she who absolutely recognizes her insane need for instant gratification.
Looking forward to you Cliff Notes
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
@Coastinganon: I skipped over the worksheets/exercises the first time I read it!
cantaloupe / 6669 posts
Okay, so non-parent here. From my experience watching kids, sometimes you don’t have time or the wherewithal to do all these steps. What then? I’d be worried that LOs would not be able to handle “no” even more…
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
@daniellemybelle: I posted previously about ways 3 ways to say no to your kids!
http://www.hellobee.com/2012/02/13/three-ways-to-say-no-to-your-kids/
Once kids can talk though, I can’t recommend this book enough. The amazing thing is that when kids feel listened to, it changes the way that kids react to obstacles. I’ve seen it starting to happen with Charlie, and have been blown away!
grapefruit / 4770 posts
OMG this is awesome! Saving to favorites for future use!!
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Yes it sounds great but in reality you actually ended up ignoring his requests. I think a more common sense approach is to say NO when necessary and explain why to the child. Kids need boundaries. I usually would say no if my kids wanted too many ice creams or cupcakes. However I usually get down to same height level as them and explain exactly why. This includes health reasons and for instance I would tell my 7 yr old son who prides himself on being the fastest sprinter in school that he may not retain that title for long. Then I always finish by saying that this is just because I love them an that is true. It is easier to say yes but that is a love based on insecurities. saying yes and no are important in life and it is naive to treat no as something terrible. I certainly want my kids to say no to drugs, unsafe sex etc in the future. So let us get real about this. Kids need boundaries but must be mixed with a whole lot of love.