Charlie has been acting up ever since baby Olive came along… a total coincidence, I’m sure. We’ve been meaning to start using timeouts to address his behavior, but had been holding off for three reasons:
1. We felt a bit responsible for his acting up, since we helped cause the problem in the first place by having another baby.
2. Charlie got massively sick several times, with a head cold and also oral herpes. Because his sicknesses caused him to act up even more, we didn’t feel right starting timeouts and punishing him for what might not be his fault.
3. To be honest, we were just stalling on starting timeouts because we didn’t know much about them. We really wanted to research them, because it’s the sort of thing you want to do right the first time.
Recently we realized that Charlie had completely recovered from his sickness. We were so happy! But then he started spitting on the floor of our house, as all that nasty post-sickness stuff started coming up from his lungs. I totally understand why he was spitting, but spitting on our house floor is completely unacceptable and gross. When we told Charlie to stop it, he would laugh like it was a game and sometimes even spit again while looking at us in the eye. Argh!
On Saturday, Charlie repeatedly spat on the floor despite multiple warnings. Since it was the weekend and we had the whole day with him, we knew it was a good time to try a timeout. I picked up Charlie, carried him to a Timeout Corner that we had previously picked out, and told him that he was now in a timeout. I knelt down to his eye level, and calmly explained to him that spitting is not acceptable and that that’s why I was giving him a timeout. I used the word “Timeout” several times, so that he would know what was going on. In general, I followed the timeout guidelines from Supernanny (she calls the timeout corner a Naughty Step).
When your child misbehaves or breaks one of the House Rules explain what she’s done wrong, tell her that her behaviour is unacceptable, and warn her that if she behaves in the same way again, she’ll be put on the Naughty Step. Make sure your voice remains calm, not angry, and use a low, authoritative tone.
Is there a particular toy or something which is triggering the situation which you could calmly remove? Or is your child tired or hungry? See if you can help resolve her frustration and move her on to another activity or use the Involvement Technique to diffuse the situation.
If she misbehaves again, immediately put her on the Naughty Step. Explain clearly why she is there and how long she must stay there (one minute per year of her age).
If she comes off the Naughty Step, put her back on using gentle but firm movements and keep putting her back onto the step until she realises that you’re committed to keeping her there for the agreed set time.
Once your child has completed the agreed set time on the Naughty Step, crouch down so you’re on the same level, use a low and authoritative tone of voice, and explain why you put her there. Ask her to apologize, and when she does, praise her warmly with a kiss and a cuddle. Say ‘thank you’, go back to what you were doing and forget about the incident.
If your child refuses to apologize (or does something like shouts ‘sorry’ in a way which makes you think she probably doesn’t mean it!), continue this technique until she realises that you need a proper apology. But don’t forget the kiss and cuddle at the end!
I was shocked at how effective the timeout was! The whole experience went amazingly well.
1) Charlie seemed to know he had done something wrong. I had thought maybe he would be unrepentant, but instead he really seemed to know that he had been doing something bad. He cried hot wet tears, which was heartbreaking. But at the same time, spitting on our floors is gross and I wanted him to know it’s not acceptable.
2) He apologized, not only to me during the timeout but also to Mrs. Bee afterward. He will often hold back on an apology if he feels he didn’t do something wrong, so I took this as a sign that he knew he had done something wrong.
3) You’re supposed to do timeouts for one-minute-per-year of age, rounding up a minute at the half-year mark. But I felt that his first timeout shouldn’t be that long, especially since he had immediately burst into tears. So I kept the timeout to about one minute. (I plan to increase the length of the timeouts in the future.)
4) Afterward, Charlie recovered quickly and played well the rest of the evening. I think the timeout was much harder emotionally for me and Mrs. Bee than it was for him!
Sunday was the day after The Timeout, and it was kind of amazing. Mrs. Bee and I spent the whole day with him, and he was much better behaved than usual. Was this a coincidence, or was it the timeout? I can’t say for sure, but I can say that he hasn’t been well behaved in a long time!
We had a few incidents on Sunday, and each time we mentioned the “T-word”. It was amazing the effect it had:
* Charlie acted up pretty early Sunday morning, and we warned him that if he kept it up we’d put him in a timeout. He immediately said, “No timeout!” It turns out that after a single timeout, he definitely knew what it was and didn’t want one. Wow, I had no idea that there would be results so quickly!
* When we were out at the playground later in the morning, Charlie acted up again. I wasn’t sure whether or not to warn him about a timeout, since we were not at home. But I had read in my online research that when out and about, you can give a timeout and then do the timeout when you get back home. (Or even do it there, if you have a mat or something that you can put on the floor.) So I confidently warned Charlie that if he didn’t behave better, we would give him a timeout. As soon as he heard the words “timeout”, he said “No timeout!” again and then started acting much better. After his nap, we took Charlie to a nearby shopping mall in the afternoon, and he was an angel the whole day! It was pretty shocking. We didn’t even have to mention the “T word” to him. I don’t know if it was a coincidence or not, but we’ll take it!
We almost had a whole day without a timeout, but then after we got home we were all hanging out and Charlie hit me. We’ve had an issue lately where he will hit me from time to time, which is obviously very disrespectful. So I warned him that if he hit me again that I’d put him in a timeout. He laughed and then hit me again. It seemed like a textbook case of testing boundaries. So even though I didn’t want to do a timeout after such a great day, I felt like I had to give him a short one to let him know that I was serious about the warning.
Charlie immediately started crying in his Timeout Corner. This time, he only cried one tear… but it was a big hot wet one. For some reason, this made me feel completely miserable. If he was trying to manipulate me, then it worked. After the timeout, I asked him for a hug as always. He gave me one, and I told him that I loved him.
I hate punishing Charlie, but I feel like the alternative is even worse. I love him so much, and it’s hard for me to see him cry. I tell myself that he’s just facing the consequences of his own bad behavior, but sometimes I feel like I’m the one that is making him cry. It helps to remind myself of what he did, so I don’t just end the timeout early and give him a big hug and a high five every time.
Overall, I think that the timeouts have been a valuable addition to our parenting toolkit. In some ways, timeouts are the parenting equivalent to crying it out. Not everyone needs them and you have to do the research to make sure it’s right for you. But in many case, the technique can be life changing! So far, our results have been encouraging.
Have you used timeouts with your little one? If so, how has it worked for you… and if not, how do you let your little one know when they’ve crossed the line in their behavior?
Timeouts part 1 of 4
1. The Power of Timeouts by Mr. Bee2. The Case Against Timeouts by Mr. Bee
3. thinking time, a new thought on time-out by Mrs. Palette
4. Calm Down Bottles by Mrs. Cowgirl
Toddler Tantrums part 2 of 12
1. How to prevent tantrums: A guide to the 5 triggers and 2 stressors that cause tantrums by Mr. Bee2. The Power of Timeouts by Mr. Bee
3. The Case Against Timeouts by Mr. Bee
4. Three Ways to say "no" to your kids by Mr. Bee
5. From Devil to Angel: "Tina's No" by mrs. wagon
6. What Shamu Taught Me About Happy Toddlers by Mr. Bee
7. The Best Parenting Book I've Ever Read by Mr. Bee
8. Cracking the code on toddler tantrums by Mrs. Jacks
9. What would Ellie do? Managing tantrums. by Mrs. Jacks
10. The Trenches of Toddler-Dom by Mrs. High Heels
11. The Nurtured Heart Approach: Disciplining for Greatness by Mrs. Twine
12. Diagnosing Tantrums and Behavioral Problems for 3-4 Year Olds by Mrs. Bee
apricot / 260 posts
I’m so dreading when we have to correct Wombat’s bad behavior. Good for you for sticking to it.
grape / 99 posts
Thanks for posting this! We are (hopefully) a ways off from needing something like this, but it’s helpful to read about now and have in the back of our heads. This is the approach that we were planning to take. Glad to hear that Charlie responded well.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
Thank you for posting this! I don’t have kids yet, but my parents always used timeouts as their form of discipline and they DEFINITELY work! I can also tell that my spoiled brat of a nephew has never had a timeout his entire life (except one time when my husband decided to take matters into his own hands), and he’s sorely lacking manners due to this.
I know it’s hard, but don’t give in! You are helping your child soooooooo much by teaching him that actions have consequences and what is appropriate behavior and what isn’t. He will do so well later in life due to these lessons he’s learning at a young age. I applaud you!
I will definitely be using timeouts on my children in the future!
GOLD / wonderful coffee bean / 18478 posts
Awww, Charlie is so cute “No timeout!” Thank you for the post. My daughter is approaching the 2 year mark so this information will come in handy soon I am sure. I know that she already knows what behavior is acceptable and what is not. As soon as she starts testing those boundaries, I won’t hesitate in using timeouts. We are definitely doing it for their own good and not to make them cry.
pea / 19 posts
in our house, L gets a couple of warnings, then he goes in timeout. there is no “i wont do it anymore, no timeout!” because he has learned that its a way to avoid timeouts by saying “i’m sorry” right up front. lol. read Magic 1-2-3. this also works wonders! by the time i get to “2”, he’s doing whatever i asked him to do! i also use the stern voice when i’m serious, although it sounds like i’m yelling. gotta work on that.
on the other hand, timeouts dont work on my younger one. he is only 18 months old, and you’d THINK he wa too young for it. but he’s not. when i tried to give him timeout for being “not nice”, he gave me a huge smile, said “not nice!” then proceeded to give me a kiss. yeah – i fell for that one. i need to find another way to discipline him when the time comes.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
As soon as I saw the title of this post I though about Super Nanny. I’m glad timeouts are working for Charlie.
pear / 1639 posts
I’m glad timeouts are working so well! They did with DS for awhile, but now he makes it into a game, so his 4 minute timeout turns into a lot longer!
hostess / eggplant / 11068 posts
Wow! Awesome post! I’m surprised how well (and quickly) Charlie learned from timeouts!
pomegranate / 3716 posts
Wow, I had no idea that Time Outs were effective! They sound so simple… I guess one measly minute is a lifetime for a little kid
grapefruit / 4400 posts
I kept LOLing when he would laugh at you and deliberately disobey– but it seems like the time outs are working so far! Good luck!
honeydew / 7968 posts
awww charlie seems like such a good kid. i’m afraid my kids will be as stubborn and me and my husband and will give me an attitude with the time-outs and won’t care that we put them there.
pomegranate / 3053 posts
Timeouts are AWESOME to begin with. We started timeouts at 18 months and it worked wonders when we first started. Like Charlie, my son would almost immediately stop the bad behavior and be good. At one point he even gave himself timeouts and ran to his spot right away. It’s really cute but I think he knows better now.
Now at 31 months I can say that it still works but getting him to stay at his timeout spot is getting harder and he tests us a lot more now too. Like how you see it on Supernanny…keep putting him back until he stays. My son started holding onto my leg as I walk away (crying or smiling at me) and I would just keep putting him back over and over again. Eventually, he’ll stay put. I just walk away w/o looking at him. I think that is key for us. Once we set eyes on him he just gets worse. Oh, and I have a spot for timeouts on every floor just so I don’t have to take him downstairs just for a time out. Sometimes it’s anywhere, really. I was so upset one time I even threatened to time him out under a table at a restaurant once. I would NEVER do that but it worked. LOL!
pomegranate / 3053 posts
Oh, and we do the counting…”1,2,3…” A lot of times he’ll say “no 3, no 3!!!” And jump up and down b/c he doesn’t want to go. I’d say half the time he’ll be good after that. These little ones are so unpredictable!!!
blogger / watermelon / 14218 posts
Mr. Bee, you’re doing such a great job!! Charlie and RJ are definitely at the age where timeouts are necessary and beneficial. And I think consistency is key, which is very apparent in your story. Also apparent is the fact that Charlie is VERY SMART… oh my! He learned “Time Out” after just one! haha. I don’t know if RJ really understands the word, but when I say “do you need a time out?” he usually stops misbehaving. Usually this is for loud whining, and usually out in public. RJ’s timeouts have been kind of time-out-lites: I just carry him away from the situation while saying “it’s time for time out”, which results in tears, and then I sit with him in my lap, face him to me and ask him to say “I’m sorry”. By the time he says it, he’s not crying anymore and calmed down, and he’s always immediately ready to behave.
I know the misbehaving will escalate and the time outs will too, as they get older… but having this groundwork at this time when they’re testing their boundaries with us (it KILLS me when they do the whole do-it-while-looking-you-in-the-eye thing!!!) is so key, I think.
Keep up the good work!!!!!!
pineapple / 12802 posts
We’ve used the supernanny time out system with DH’s boys. They’ve worked so well for us. They practically rule the household at their moms, and they were a little unruly when we started getting them on a set schedule. Timeouts have worked wonders and we hardly need to use them anymore, we just give a warning and they smarten up! (They are 4 & 7 now though too, which may make a difference in their maturity).
pomegranate / 3503 posts
Timeouts have been very effective for us as well. We started them around 18 months. We mostly use them when our son goes into hysteria when he can’t have what he wants. Our son has also started to purposely hit us as well when he’s upset. We started reading him the book, “hands are not for hitting”. When he starts to hit now, we say that to him and redirect his hands to do something else suggested in the book. though it hasn’t completely curbed him of his hitting prblem, it does calm him down faster and shortens the tantrum, it seems.
persimmon / 1255 posts
LO is too young for timeouts but I also plan to do them
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21616 posts
Aww Mr. Bee!! you are doing him a great service by being consistent in disciplining him, it will pay off one day even though it’s hard!
It’s really good thouh that it’s hard for you, because he will see that. Probably the best mom I know, who has THE MOST respectful and kind children I’ve ever met, always communicates how she hates disciplining to her daughter, but she is very clear on why it is necessary, so that she grows up with a kind heart and knowing what is wrong and right. She always has a big hug and cuddle time afterward and never punishes in anger. It is SO effective! Having the child know you love them and aren’t angry means a lot to them! You are awesome!
apple seed / 1 posts
I have always used time outs for disciplining my now 7 year old twins. We started using them when the boys were about 2 years old. For our family there has always been a direct correlation between time outs and better behavior afterwards.
Thanks for sharing, Mr. Bee.
GOLD / pomelo / 5167 posts
Oh this is a great great great post. I will have the discussion with my husband but the way you are going about it is what we will do. Only thing is that I will say timeout in english and my husband will say the word in french so hopefully that won’t compromise the time out. Plus he doesn’t speak yet so he can’t say NO TIMEOUT, but can shake his head.
pea / 5 posts
I honestly think that all kids need discipline and that it needs to start and be fixed at a young age. Even though I’m not a mom yet, I’ve noticed that parents who do not do timeout to their kids, they tend to be spoiled brats and then later on blame it on someone else for their kids behavior. Be a parent first and do what you can to keep them in line and than be a friend second.
cherry / 128 posts
I hate to be a contrarian, but to me Charlie’s behavior post-timeout was motivated by the desire of avoiding a timeout (external control), rather than a development of internal control (“I do not spit on the floor because I am concerned about the health of others”).
I do believe a timeout can be effective in changing behavior quickly in the short-term, but it is not effective in developing long-term internal behavioral controls. We aren’t giving them any new ideas or skills for how to get along with others when you put them in a time out.
I also think that parents often confuse discipline with punishment. Discipline means to teach, punishment means to hurt. I don’t think you need to hurt a child (the hurt doesn’t have to be physical, it can take the form of blame, shame, judgement, or guilt) in order to teach them.
Mr. Bee, you wrote about feeling like you were making Charlie cry – I would think about ways of teaching Charlie appropriate behavior where the process feels good/positive to you.
While his behavior is normal toddler behavior, it doesn’t excuse it so I would suggest thinking of ways to redirecting his behavior. A first step would be to ask, why is he misbehaving? Does he want more attention, or wants to express power/wants to feel useful? Is there an appropriate space for him to express his physical need? Then, find a way for him to exercise his needs in an appropriate way.
Perhaps in the case of spitting, check and see if there are tissues readily accessible to him, as well as wastebaskets. Or maybe he just needs to hear what you do want him to do instead of what you don’t want him to do. You could say, “we do not spit on the floor. we spit in a tissue and then throw it away,” and then when he spits on the floor, have him help you clean it up.
Or, if that isn’t the issue, maybe it’s a case of wanting attention (negative attention is better than no attention). If it’s attention he’s seeking, when he does the negative attention behavior, don’t make eye contact, don’t say anything, but do something physical to make your child feel loved (such as rubbing his back).
In the case of when he hits you, you could say, “Charlie, you seem really frustrated that XXX. But hitting hurts Daddy. When you’re ready to play nicely, Daddy will play with you again.” Then leave the area so that he cannot hit you. Or if he’s acting out at the playground, simply say, “if you continue acting like that, we will have to leave the playground.” If he continus his misbehavior, you would then follow through with your limit, leaving the playground while saying gently, “It seems like today you can’t play nicely in the playground so we’re going home. You can try again tomorrow.” (And be prepared for tears and a fit, but the tears come from disappointment, not because they feel that they’re “bad”.)
Here are some writings from some of my favorite parenting teachers:
http://incafinfo.blogspot.com/2011/10/develop-your-childs-internal-guidance.html
http://store.positivediscipline.com/Child-Discipline-To-Punish-or-Not_b_16.html
http://store.positivediscipline.com/Time-Out-for-Children-Under-the-Age-of-Reason_b_7.html
http://store.positivediscipline.com/I-Need-A-Hug_b_8.html
“Some people ask, “After the hug, then what? What about the misbehavior?” Hugs can create an atmosphere where children are willing and able to learn. This may be the time to take time for training, ask what, why and how questions, give a limited choice, use distraction, engage in joint problem-solving — or to do nothing and see what happens next. Most of the time adults can help children stop misbehaving when they stop dealing with the “misbehavior” and deal with the underlying cause. Children DO better when they FEEL better. Encouragement is the key.” -Jane Nelson
cherry / 128 posts
Oh here’s another great article that I just found that sums it all up:
http://www.ahaparenting.com/parenting-tools/positive-discipline/timeouts
GOLD / apricot / 337 posts
Great post! I am bookmarking this one. I already have anxiety about what to do when LM misbehaves later on. The timeout process seems very do-able!
kiwi / 718 posts
I’m definitely planning on incorporating time-outs into our disciplinary actions for when the time comes. I’m so glad that Charlie has responded so positively! keep us updated?